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Orange
County's
involvement in the WTC attack goes beyond the tragedy of our local
victims and the glory of our local heroes. The two planes that two
planes that hit the WTC nearly collided over
Orange
County. Below is
the text of our pledge. Click here to
sign. Following that are some remarks from Orange TRT's Frank Carbone
followed by the original details from the Times Herald-Record.
We, the undersigned, pledge not to patronize US domestic airline
companies until the airlines, in conjunction with the FAA, relent
on the insidious firearm ban for pilots, crew and passengers. Based
on sound statistics, armed citizens substantially reduce the
potential for criminals to act and carry out criminal activity when
confronted by armed vigilance. It is despicable that the US
government, in response to the acts of September 11, has a virtual
"black-out" on the idea of armed citizens' complementing
the country's newest security measures. We will resume flying once
sensible measures have been instituted whereby airline crew and
passengers are allowed to protect themselves as they see fit.
Also Click
here to sign a petition in support of the "Americans in
Good Standing Act" that would allow armed passengers.
Also, please send the follwoing letter to
your local paper:
Dear Editor,
The events of 9-11 shocked us all. After the initial period of rage
and grief, it is necessary for us now to calmly and carefully
review the roots of this crime and consider what we can do to
prevent such acts in the future.
We know from recent experience on the ground, in the 31 states that
allow citizen concealed carry of firearms, that significant drops
in violent crime can be expected in any state that adopts this
measure. Can we have any expectation that the same would be true in
the air? I believe so. Until the sixties there were few restrictions
on firearms carried by airline passengers. Arms were a common sight
on planes, particularly during hunting seasons. These were mainly
hunting weapons, far more powerful than any handgun made. It was
shortly AFTER this was prohibited that the word "skyjacker"
came into the language. There was a spate of hijackings in the
early Seventies that only ended with the armed Sky Marshall
program. So we can imagine that armed citizens, whether civilians,
as in the past, or Sky Marshals, as in the Seventies, added a
strong measure of safety to our airline industry.
But The Sky Marshall program is not enough today. One Sky Marshall
can not handle four or five armed and trained terrorists, as they
might have been able to a lone hijacker. The cost of even a single
Sky Marshall per flight is too great for the airlines to bear, and
the three to five that
reason dictates would be necessary are out of the question even for
the government. The only reasonable option is to return to the
successful pattern of the past. Citizens throughout the US have
proven themselves competent to carry weapons on the ground. Despite
strong efforts to find evidence of any negative effects of modern
liberal concealed carry laws, none has been found. There has been a
sharp decline in violent crimes of all kinds in liberal concealed
carry issue states, and no increase in road rage incidents,
suicides or domestic violence.
Guns in the hands of Americans save lives. They could have saved
6000 lives on 9-11. That is something to think about when weighing
the pros and cons. 6000 lives.
The obvious objections to this policy are well covered at our web
site. I ask you to visit and make an informed judgment of your own.
Your readers would welcome discussion of this issue in a forum such
as yours.
http://www.projectsafeskies.org
Thank you.
(Name)
(Phone and address)
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I'm not sure what all of the newspaper accounts said about
Stewart
Airport relative
to the hijacked planes. But since I live about 2 miles east of the
end of the east/west runways (#9 and #27) and was appointed to the
Stewart Airport Noise Committee a few years back. I've learned and
experienced many improprieties and corruption within our government
(local and state) that I would have never known had I not become an
activist (since 1985) and have been vocal about Stewart Airport and
the preservation of the Buffer Zone Lands aka
the 7,000 Acre Stewart Hunting Co-Operative -- in Orange County New
York. NYS Gov. Pataki has been working on getting rid of 2,000
acres of the Co-op for developers -- cheap.
I lived here when it was a SAC Air Base,
then Gov. Rockefeller forced the Air Force out in order to turn it
into a giant SST
Airport in 1970,
for private businesses -- these plans fell through. Then about 10
years ago NYS Government decided to develop it into a major
passenger and/or cargo port or whatever would satisfy the big
business bosses, big party bosses and big crime bosses (the unholy
trinity). I could go into pages of detail now or write a book but
it may not be appreciated and it may not be a good time.
The air traffic controllers at Stewart do not have the luxury of
viewing a radar screen. But they are sitting in a control tower
that is more than 50 years old with a set of binoculars. Yes there
have been near-misses and accidents. And yes the controllers have
complained. The Times Herald record did a full page story on my
community of Winona
Lake and our
concerns for overflights, noise and our
safety. We also petitioned the airport management and our local and
state public servants to no avail. They were completely useless and
in my opinion are controlled by big business and the real party
bosses whose names most of us may not recognize. After we presented
our petitions signatures and the story appeared in the THR and
within 4 days -- our community was almost wiped out by a fully
loaded FedEx cargo plane that was attempting an emergency landing
at the airport due to a major fire on board. It barely made the
runway and as soon as it landed it broke into 3 parts and became
fully involved [it passed over our community at a very low
altitude]. The pilots of the plane refused to release the shipping
manifest but it was later determined that there were illegal
passengers, drugs, contaminated blood and God knows what else. If
it was a tractor trailer that caught fire along a highway and the
driver refused to give up the shipping manifest he would have been
arrested.
The other concern with airport safety is the fact that for many
years it operated with only one instrument landing system (ILS). I
believe that another is being installed. In addition business at
the airport has never been good and has been in decline for many
years - it has turned out to be another government boondoggle that
has probably wasted more than $750 million in hard earned tax money
that should have been spent on more important and needy projects.
Many Americans who feel secure, safe, complacent in our homes, our
workplace, our transportation systems and our communities naively
so -- would have a completely different outlook if they knew more
of what was really going on behind the scenes and the risk
management decisions that affect all of our lives and our future
health.
. . . . .Frank Carbone
Jr., Orange
County
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Stewart
Airport – The two
disaster-bound 767's that left Boston early
Tuesday morning on a suicide mission to the
World
Trade
Center crossed
paths over Stewart
International
Airport and nearly
collided, according to news reports.
Air traffic controllers at Stewart in New Windsor were never warned
about any of the happenings overhead, they said yesterday, even
though radar controllers elsewhere already knew something was
terribly wrong.
American Airlines Flight 11 and United's
Flight 175, the doomed planes that crashed into the
Twin
Towers Tuesday
morning, both flew over Stewart at the same time along their path
to destruction, according to the Nashua Telegraph newspaper.
"The two airplanes got too close to each other down by
Stewart," an unnamed Federal Aviation Administration employee
told that paper.
What wasn't clear, however, was if air traffic controllers knew how
high each of the planes were when they roared through the Hudson
Valley because by then, officials said, the instrument on board
that broadcasts the aircraft's altitude had been turned off.
News reports and radar tracking data show both flights left
Boston's
Logan
International
Airport within
minutes of each other, American's at about 8 a.m. and United's
about 15 minutes later.
The American flight headed west. About 15 minutes after takeoff, it
veered northward instead of south. Soon after, it was told to
climb, but didn't respond, air traffic controllers told reporters.
The pilot, however, often keyed the microphone so radar controllers
could hear much of what was happening in the cockpit.
"He wanted us to know something was wrong," a controller
told the Christian Science Monitor. "When he pushed the button
and the terrorist spoke, we knew. There was this voice that was
threatening the pilot ... "
A second controller told that paper the apparent hijacker told the
pilot, "Don't do anything foolish. You are not going to get
hurt."
At about 8:28 a.m., that
flight skirted the southeast boundary of
Adirondack
Park and turned
south, soon following the Hudson River toward its
target, covering the final 160 miles in about 20 minutes. Impact
was at 8:48 a.m. The United
flight headed southwest after takeoff, crossed diagonally through
Connecticut and then
flew through the Hudson
Valley over
Newburgh at about 8:40 a.m. That plane
continued toward central New
Jersey before making a hard left toward
Manhattan.
It hit 15 minutes after the first.
By John Milgram
Ottaway News Service
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