Does anyone know of a site that has the specific treatments for smallpox?
The Army Medical Manual I have is rather vague. Is there any information about
what antibiotic to give to prevent secondary infections? Is there any
antibiotic that will combat the smallpox itself? The lady epidemiologist they
had on the radio station out of Dallas had said that if you contract the North
American strain of smallpox, there is a 30% mortality rate. If you contract
any of the other forms, there is about a 5% mortality rate. The North American
strain is NOT supposed to be the strain that was kept alive, although she said
it is so virulent that if there is any tissue left on the bones of a victim, a
new culture of it could be started from the body. Hopefully, if we are hit it
will be with a weaker strain.
She also said that unless a person who has been vacinated has lived a life
of yo-yo dieting, gaining and losing the same 50 pounds over and over, the
vacination should still be good, and that children born to a mother who was
vacinated will have some immunity, although not as much of course as the
person who was actually vacinated. That made me feel some better as I
definitely had a "good" vaccination since it made me sick and I ran a high
fever for several days when I was vaccinated all those years ago. And since
I've been rather consistently fat for most of my life, hopefully my children
have some immunity. Still, I'd like to know the treatment. Thanks.
"Hopefully, if we are hit it will be with a weaker strain."
The problem with spreading a communicable disease like small pox is that it
has a nasty habit of flying back in the face of those who started it. There
are precious few young people on the face of the earth that have had the
innoculation. So if you are a terrorist who wants to promote radical Islam,
you don't spread a disease that can come back and kill your followers. It's
really not good PR to kill your terrorist recruitment pool.
Case in point. The West Nile virus arrived in New York two years ago. It is
now found in just about every state of the Union. Pretty good dispersal using
birds, wouldn't you say? Why worry about small pox when my chances of
contracting Lyme disease or West Nile virus are a million times greater? Heck,
there are strains of influenza that are extremely nasty and much easier to
come by.
But, to answer your question, Small pox is a known disease with a known
cure. Contact any health clinic.
Craig, I read in an old encyclopedia that smallpox can be treated by the
use of "methisazone"; however, I've been hearing on the news lately that there
is no cure for it, and the only aid is smallpox vaccine for prevention. The
vaccine takes "up to" 21 days to take effect, which means we'd need to produce
a whole lot of vaccine very soon if we wanted to be able to innoculate a lot
of people. I've also heard that the "government" has it all figured out: since
they don't have enough vaccine to dose the whole country, they'll just
"encircle" any area with an outbreak by giving folks in surrounding areas
vaccinations. Right. Like we're going to keep everyone from leaving this area
after we learn of the presence of smallpox (assuming NO ONE has already left
by the time it's discovered.
I hope you're right about "you don't spread a disease that can come back
and kill your followers" But there are two possible problems with this. First,
OBL's followers are already talking about "god's will" if they and theirs die.
Maybe they'll just say it's god's will if the smallpox spreads to them and
theirs.
Second, they may believe that they can keep their own borders airtight
until the smallpox epidemic has been snuffed out elsewhere. They would
certainly have more success in doing this than we would, as I guess there
isn't exactly unrestricted travel into and out of Afghanistan.
I've had my smallpox vaccination. Twice, actually. I was told when I got my
second one, in the Coast Guard, that it would protect me for the rest of my
life. Now I'm not so sure. Regardless, I would certainly recommend that those
who have not been vaccinated strongly consider doing so, if the vaccine is
made available. Like my kids/grandkids, nieces, nephews, and anyone else who's
too young to have been vaccinated.
I sure would like to know where anyone got the information that smallpox is
curable??????? The CDC would more than likely like to hear that as well.
Smallpox is a very virulent virus which is highly contagious.BUT...since it
only exists in humans, an outbreak is FAIRLY easily contained. The only folks
who will have a big problem are the first ones to get it...the CDC would
immediately map out an area of approximately three miles in every direction
and give all people in that zone the vaccine. Even though some would have
already been exposed, the presence of the vaccine helps MOST folks either not
fully develop the disease or have a weaker case of it. The bad thing is that
folks living in that area have to cooperate with the health department..they
cannot go running for the hills and thereby spread the disease. The worst case
scenario in my mind would be the scared citizenry, facing armed national guard
to keep them in their neighborhood. As far as secondary infections, they are
the same as chickenpox, mostly skin bacteria such as staph and strep, easily
cured with run of the mill antibiotics. Best thing to do in a smallpox
outbreak is to : stay in your own home; allow nobody within 12 feet of you
unless they are in a contamination suit and have pills in their
hand....relatives from out-of town on the run will have to stay in the garage,
wearing masks and eating off paper plates delivered to them with masks and
gloves and gowns for minimum of 21 days.
Lesley, smallpox is survivable. Many people of European descent DID survive
in the old days. In fact, face shields made of metal mesh were used to protect
the face from fireplace heat by people who had survived the smallpox and were
using beeswax based makeup to fill in the scars. Both men and women used the
makeup, and no one thought any less of them because the scars were so awful.
The smallpox may or may not kill you...the secondary infections are more than
likely what killed most people. As for the CDC, they've done such a really
bang up job on the anthrax cases, we can all just place our faith in them from
now on.
As for the encircling an area and giving vaccinations...It has long been
rumored that the FEMA plan to deal with ANY real epidemic was to seal off the
area and let nature take it's course. Those who lived, lived, and those who
died, died. Sounds a lot like the same old plan to me.
OK, I've been gone for about 2 weeks and kind of been living in a cave.
Some one help me out here w/ this one. I was under the impression that the
only 2 "known" samples of smallpox were in the hands of the CDC and the
russian counterpart of the CDC. Is there some credable reason to think that
there is more out there somewhere that may be used as a weapon?
Like I said before, I've been waaaaaaaaay out of the loop newswise and
missed this if it was on the radio or in the papers. John
Green, I never said that smallpox was always a fatal illness..what I said
was that Craig is mistaken in posting that there is a "known cure" for
it.....in medicine, a "cure" means literally that,,either by medication or
other treatment, one is able to destroy the offending organism or prevent it
from replicating. Smallpox is a virus.there are NO cures for viruses, just
symptomatic treatment and a few drugs which sometimes are able to slow the
reproduction of viral organisms. We can cure anthrax, if presented early, with
anitbiotics..there is no medical cure for smallpox. In my own family, my
grandmother, her mother and four of her siblings all had smallpox..only the
baby died. That was in 1907. The course of any viral illness is determined by
many factors: how much virus was the person exposed to; what was the state of
their immune system prior to the onset of disease; what is their nutritional
status; etc. etc. etc.....
Here is some info that might be of a help. I have been sent this same info
from several people including a friend that is an herbalist and one that is
really into homeopathy. I don't know for sure if this will work, but let's
hope we don't need to find out!
NATURAL ANTIDOTES TO BIOLOGICAL TOXINS
Americans have grown so accustomed to relying upon prescription medications
that they will probably have difficulty believing there are natural compounds
as close as the kitchen cupboard that are potent antidotes against biological
warfare. These natural antibiotics and antioxidants may give unvaccinated
people who have been exposed to biological or chemical weapons enough time to
secure professional care. They may even save lives.
It is a fact that chaotic events will make it difficult to obtain
appropriate treatment even if it were available. So we must learn more about
natural antidotes. Furthermore, it is clear that antidotes to biological
attacks need to be employed at home or the workplace in an expedient manner.
The idea of the masses running to obtain medical care or vaccines at doctor's
offices, clinics of hospitals needs to be abandoned if civilian defense
against biological weapons is to become a reality.
NATURAL RESCUE REMEDIES
Since anthrax is the most feared toxin it will be addressed first. The
Garlic Information Center in Britain indicates that deadly anthrax is most
susceptible to garlic. Garlic is a broad-spectrum antibiotic that even blocks
toxin production by germs. (Journal Nutrition, March 2001). Before vaccines
were developed against polio, garlic was used successfully as a prophylactic.
In one test garlic was found to be a more potent antibiotic than penicillin,
ampicillin, doxycycline, streptomycin and cephalexin, some of the very same
antibiotic drugs used in the treatment of anthrax. Garlic was found to be
effective against nine strains of E. coli, Staph and other bugs. (Fitoterapia,
Volume 5, 1984) F allicin, the active ingredient in garlic, equals 15 units of
penicillin. (Koch and Lawson, Garlic: The Science and Therapeutic Application,
2nd edition, Willimas & Wilkins, Baltimore 1996) Garlic capsules that certify
their allicin content are preferred and may provide 5-10 milligrams of allicin,
which is equivalent to 75-150 units of penicillin.
The anthrax bacterium's toxicity emanates from its ability to kill
microphage cells which are part of the immune system. Studies have shown that
sulfur-bearing antioxidants (alpha lipoic acid, N-acetyl cysteine, taurine)
and Vitamin C, which elevate levels of glutathione, a natural antioxidant
within the body, counters the toxicity produced by anthrax. (Molecular
Medicine, November 1994; Immunopharmacology, January 2000; Applied
Environmental Microbiology, May 1979) The above sulfur compounds can be
obtained from health food stores and taken in doses ranging from 100- 500 mg.
Vitamin C should be the buffered alkaline form (mineral ascorbates) rather
than the acidic form (ascorbic acid) and should be combined with bioflavonoids
which prolong vitamin C's action in the blood circulation. The powdered form
of vitamin C is recommended to achieve optimal dosing. A tablespoon of vitamin
C powder (about 10,000 mgs) can be added to juice. Good products are Twinlab's
Super Ascorbate C powder and Alacer's powdered vitamin C.
Melatonin, a sleep-inducing hormone available at most health food stores,
has been shown to help prevent lethal toxins from anthrax exposure. (Cell
Biology Toxicology, Volume 16, 2000) It could be taken at bedtime in doses
ranging from 5-20 mg. Melatonin boosts glutathione levels during sleep.
Of additional interest, one of the methods by which mustard gas works is
its ability to bring about cell death by depleting cell levels of glutathione.
(eMedicine Journal, April 9, 2001) So glutathione is also an antidote for
mustard gas poisoning.
Virtually all bacteria, viruses and fungi depend upon iron as a growth
factor. (Iron & Your Health, T.F. Emery, CRC Press, 11991) Iron- chelating
(removing) drugs and antibiotics (Adriamycin, Vancomycin, others) are
effective against pathogens. The plague (Yersinia pestis), botulism, smallpox
and anthrax could all be potentially treated with non-prescription
metal-binding chelators. For example, iron removal retards the growth of the
plague. (Medical Hypotheses, January 1980) The biological activity of the
botulinum toxin depends upon iron, and metal chelators may be beneficial
(Infection Immunology, October 1989, Toxicon, July, 1997). Phytic acid
(IP6), derived as an extract from rice bran, is the most potent natural iron
chelator and has strong antibiotic and antioxidant actin. (Free Radical
Biology Medicine, Volume 8, 1990; Journal Biological Chemistry, August 25,
1987) IP6 has been found to have similar iron-chelating properties as
desferrioxamine, a drug commonly used to kill germs, tumor cells or to remove
undesirable minerals from the body. (Biochemistry Journal, September 16, 1993)
IP6 rice bran extract (2000-4000 mg) should be taken in between meals with
filtered or bottled water only (no juice).
The antibacterial, antiseptic action of plant oils has been described in
recent medical literature and may be helpful in fighting biological toxins.
(Journal Applied Microbiology, Volume 88, 2000) A potent natural antibiotic,
more powerful than many prescription antibiotics, is oil of oregano. One study
showed that oregano completely inhibited the growth of 25 germs such as
Staphylococcus aureas, Escherichia coli, Yersinia enterocolitica and
Pseudomonas aeruginosa. (Journal Food Protection, July 2001) Oregano has been
shown to be effective in eradicating intestinal parasites in humans. (Phytotherapy
Research, May 2000) Wild oregano, which is quite different than the variety on
most kitchen spice racks, has over 50 antibacterial compounds. Just one part
wild oregano oil in 4000 dilution sterilizes contaminated water. (London
Times, May 8, 2001)
Oregano powder from whole leaf oregano is available as OregamaxT capsules
(North American Herb & Spice Co.). A spectacular development in natural
antibiotic therapy is the manufacture of oregano powder from 100% pure oregano
oil, producing one of the most potent antibiotics known. It has recently
become available under the trade name OregacinT (North American Herb & Spice
Co.). It costs about $1 per pill, but this is a far cry from the $16 per pill
for Vancomycin, known as the most potent prescription antibiotic.
Nature! also provides nerve gas antitoxins. Nerve gas interrupts the normal
transmission of nerve impulses by altering levels of acetycholinesterase, the
enzyme that degrades the nerve transmitter acetycholine. Huperzine A, a
derivative of Chinese club moss, has been suggested as a pre-treatment against
nerve gases. (Annals Pharmacology France, January 2000) The Walter Reed Army
Institute of Research conducted studies which revealed that huperzine A
protects against nerve gas poisoning in a superior manner to physostigmine, a
long-standing anti-nerve toxin drug. (Defense Technical Information Center
Review, Volume 2, December 1996) Huperzine A is available as a food supplement
at most health food stores. Suggested dosage is 150 mcg per day. Pretreatment
is advised prior to nerve gas exposure.
SUMMARY
The threat of biological warfare is real and concern over preparedness of
the civilian population and medical professionals is growing. There is
virtually no practical way that vaccines, antibiotics or other treatment can
be delivered to a frightened populace in a timely manner during a crisis. The
current strategy of having an unprotected citizenry travel to physicians'
offices or hospitals to receive prophylactic care or treatment is unfeasible.
The public must be armed with preventive or therapeutic agents in their
vehicles, homes, and the workplace. Natural antibiotics and antitoxins are
well documented in the medical literature, but overlooked by health
authorities. These antidotes are readily available for the public to acquire
and place in an emergency biological response kit.
I'm sorry Lesley. Too little sleep and too many loose critters to chase,
and too much information for my weary and aging brain to process is just plain
making me edgy. That and the fact that I'm bitchy anyway. Sorry I jumped on
you.
As for the smallpox deal, there has been a LOT of information being
broadcast here about it. In fact, there has even been some government
officials on the airwaves telling us that smallpox is "likely". I live in the
general area of Dallas. For several weeks they were busy telling us that we
needed to prepare for a bio/chemical attack, including already sealing off an
area in the home with tape and plastic so one could beat a hasty retreat into
the "safe" room. Then the first part of this week, Mr. Danny Diefenbach of the
FBI, and also of Waco fame, came out and said in response to an interview
question of what happened to the terrorist attacks we'd all been warned about
that there were things we didn't know and NEVER needed to know. "Just rest
assured that we're doing our job."
By the way, the Waco courthouse burned up Wednesday night, along with the
papers on the little incident at Waco several years ago.
Anyway, like I said, now we are suddenly being told that smallpox will
probably be the agent used after anthrax. And I'm much more worried about
smallpox.
Homeopathic remedies have worked very well so far on all of my families
illnesses. If you trust homeopathy then you can buy a homeopathic vaccine for
smallpox for $28.00 at: http://www.askahomeopath.net/vaccines.htm I have the
anthrax and smallpox vaccines. I plan on giving it to everyone I can when and
if the time should come, it explains how to make more on the site. Homeopathic
vaccines work like the loaves and fishes, you can keep making more like she
explains.
Just out of curiosity and a firm medical background with an admitted bias
towards "modern " medicine, if herbal remedies work against plague, anthrax,
smallpox, etc...then why did masses of people die from these diseases over the
last thousand years or so. Surely, folks ate garlic before the yuppies came
along. There was no AMA to hinder folks from taking those things. I have a
collection of medical books which date back to the early 1800s. Not one of
them mention any cure at all for these diseases except how to reduce fever.
Herbal medicine was quite well thought of in those eras and used prolifically,
yet entire villages had their populations decreased at times by more than 60%
when smallpox blew through. So I am asking, since herbal medical knowledge was
the norm in those days, why didn't it work then but it is supposed to work
now?
I have questions about the herbal treatments too, but have bought some of
the items recommended as a last ditch, no other hope of help line of defense.
Maybe today's more highly concentrated herbal extracts will be more effective.
Maybe. We also have better access to more herbals than our ancestors. They
probably had little or no access to herbals from the Orient, etc.
Well herbs were generally home remedies and they were used sporadically and
privately administered. People like Jethro Kloss were very successful with the
if they had the knowledge to use them properly. Herbs in those days were used
by trial and error. When small pox came in as an epidemic people tried many
things I am sure, but it was a trial and error thing. There are records of
Garlic curing smallpox. Although as some here have said, many people survived
anyway. Also as technology became more advanced it killed fewer and fewer.
Also it may have helped the death rate if the Allopaths would have quit
bleeding people into buckets. It's amazing anybody lived through that!!!
Leslie, today we can grow cultures in a petri dish and slide it under a
microscope. We can then add living herbal preparations and watch a miniature
war right under our eyes! Trial and error no longer has to mean the patient
dies!
"Not one case receiving homeopathic care died, while the "old school"
doctors lost twenty percent of their (smallpox) cases.....I gave about three
hundred internal vaccinations, five to adults acting as practical nurses; to
the man who installed the telephone and lights in the pest-house; to mothers
who slept with their children while they had smallpox in its severest form.
All of these people, exposed daily, were immune."--W. L. Bonnell, MD http://www.whale.to/v/bonnell.html
ANTHRAX and SMALLPOX occur only in some part of those exposed to the
infection. Robust immune system save 2 lives out of 3.So the main idea to
protect - boost your immune system. Did you here about herb RHODIOLA ROSEA?
This herb stimulates the immune system in two ways: FIRST - by specific direct
stimulation of immune defense (stimulates one of the most important type of
immune cells - Natural Killer Cells, NK-Cells seek and destroy the infected
cells on our bodies). SECOND - by making a person less susceptible to stress.
Scientists found out that stress suppresses immunity and destroys our
resistance to various forms of bacterial or virus attack.
Rhodiola rosea is a powerful immune enhancing and anti-stress herb. It has
superior activity over other phyto-medicines, like St.John`s Wort, Ginkgo
biloba, and Panax ginseng. Key factors to beat deadly infections in time are
enhancing immunity and protection of our body from stress. Rhodiola rosea
tablets can be a good adjuvant therapy to routine treatment with antibiotics
like Cipro and Doxycycline.
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-- Albert Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901
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