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MMR Vaccine
6. Mr. George Osborne (Tatton): If he will make a statement on trends
in the uptake of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine over the last 12
months. [34705]
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health (Yvette Cooper): The
latest available evidence shows that the uptake of MMR at two years old stood
at 84.2 per cent. in the summer and in the autumn of last year. The coverage by
five years of age remained at more than 90 per cent., having fallen slightly
compared with the previous quarters. Those figures were achieved despite
extensive media coverage at the beginning of last year of unfounded claims of a
link between MMR and autism.
Mr. Osborne: We shall have to wait until the figures are published to
see what the effects of the publicity of the past few weeks has been on the
uptake. Will the Minister answer the question that she refused to answer during
the debate held in Westminster Hall this morning? If a parent, for whatever
reasonhowever irrational the Minister feels they arerefuses to give their
child the MMR vaccine, should the child have three separate vaccinations or no
vaccination at all?
Yvette Cooper: The recommendation from the Joint Committee on
Vaccination and Immunisation is clear. The Committee recommends the MMR jab as
the safest way to immunise children against what are deadly diseases. The
equivalent US committee has considered exactly the same issue within the past
two weeks and has also concluded that it only recommends the MMR jab. It is not
the job of the NHS to recommend something that is less safe and that would put
more children's lives at risk. I really wish that Opposition Members would
consider carefully the remarks that they make on this issue. It is disgraceful
of them to play games with an issue that affects children's health and,
ultimately, children's lives.
Dr. Phyllis Starkey (Milton Keynes, South-West): In the light of the
fall in the rate of immunisation and given the outbreak of childhood diseases
in the London area and other areas, does my hon. Friend welcome the campaign
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by Sensethe charity for deaf-blind victims of rubellato
inform parents of the relative risks of immunisation and non-immunisation?
Yvette Cooper: I strongly welcome the campaign by Sense. One of the
biggest risks in introducing separate jabs would be a dramatic fall-off in the
coverage of rubella. Exposure to rubella among pregnant women can lead to
serious cases of deafness and blindness in babies. That is not something that
we want to return to in this country.
Mrs. Eleanor Laing (Epping Forest): I have to point out that, once
again, the Minister has not answered the question put by my hon. Friend the
Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne). It is a very important question. The Minister
and I are in similar positions as mothers of small babies so she must surely
appreciate the position of an individual parent. No matter how often the
Minister sayswith sincerity, I am surethat MMR is the best route and no
matter how much she believes that, she will not convince every parent in this
country who has to take the risk to their own child into consideration. Will
she not admit that it would be better to give three injections than none at
all[Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker: Order.
Yvette Cooper: I am sorry to hear that questionI really thought
better of the hon. Member for Epping Forest (Mrs. Laing). The evidence and the
advice from the medical experts, in this country and abroad, has been extremely
clear: MMR is the safest way to immunise children, and introducing separate
jabs would put more children at risk. It would lead to reduced coverage.
Coverage would fall compared with what it is at present because children would
be left unimmunised for longer between the jabs and more children would not
complete the course of immunisation. Recent research from Chester shows that
two thirds of the children who are currently given separate jabs do not
complete the course. That is very serious. We listen to all the advice from the
experts, but Opposition Members are expecting us to reject advice from huge
numbers of independent medical organisationsto ignore their advice and to go
for the politically easy option of introducing separate jabs. That would be
politically easy but it would put children's health at risk and it would be
morally wrong.
Mr. John McFall (Dumbarton): The Minister should know that 500
million MMR jabs have been administered worldwide since 1972, but not one scare
has taken place in any country in the world, until that of the past year,
caused by the political opportunism of the Conservative party. For the sake of
allaying young parents' fears and for the sake of sanity and the health of
young people in this country in the future, will the Minister and the
Department engage in direct mailing or become involved in ensuring that GPs'
surgeries inform parents of the weight of medical and nursing opinion behind
the MMR jab?
Yvette Cooper: My hon. Friend is right. The overwhelming evidence
from and consensus in 90 countries across the world support the MMR jab, not
separate jabs. That is exactly why the assistant surgeon
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general in the United States, the head of the vaccine
programme of the Pan American Health Organisation, the regional adviser for
communicable diseases of the World Health Organisation, the chairwoman of the
Australian National Immunisation Committee and the chairman of the American
Academy of Paediatrics have all recently contacted us to urge us not to
introduce separate jabs and to stick with MMR.
My hon. Friend is right to suggest that parents need to be able to get
answers to their questions; they are understandably concerned, given all the
reports that they have read. That is exactly what we are trying to do.
Cancelled Operations
7. Mr. Mark Prisk (Hertford and Stortford): How many cancelled
operations there were in each of the last two years. [34706]
The Minister of State, Department of Health (Jacqui Smith): In
200001, 77,818 operations were cancelled on the day by the hospital for
non-medical reasons. During 19992000, 60,242 operations were cancelled.
Mr. Prisk: Given that significant national increase and the fact
that, in Hertfordshire, the number of cancelled operations has more than
doubled in the five years since 1997, will the Minister explain why the link
between bed blocking and the increase in cancelled operations matters? What
will she do to reduce both those factors?
Jacqui Smith: A whole range of issues is likely to determine the
number of cancelled operations. The Government are taking action through the
Modernisation Agency and an £8.5 million project to ensure that good management
and reform is in place to cut the number of cancelled operations. As my right
hon. Friend the Secretary of State has already said, we are taking significant
action and investing significant amounts of money to ensure that we tackle the
problem of delayed discharge and its effect not only on the health service, but
especially on the individuals whom it affects. We are also increasing capacity
in the health service. Although we have not made much progress on that issue,
we need to return to the fact that the Government are putting in place the
reform and investment necessary to make the difference. Would Opposition
Members support that investment?
Hugh Bayley (City of York): I welcome the Minister's statement about
the action that the Government are taking to reduce the number of cancelled
operations. However, to put the issue in context, will she confirm that it is
the case that, since the Labour Government came to power, the number of
operations completed by the NHS has increased by more than 500,000, and that
the answer is not to return to the Conservative approach of carrying out fewer
operations, but to continue to put in additional resources, so that more people
are treated by the NHS under a Labour Government?
Jacqui Smith: My hon. Friend is right. Not only are we performing
more operations in the NHS, but we are achieving better outcomes in the NHS.
The NHS and those people who work in it deserve congratulations for that. Of
course, that is happening because the Government
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are increasing the capacity of the NHS to do so. For
example, we have achieved our NHS plan pledge for 20,000 more nurses by 2004
two years early. Opposition Members described that pledge as preposterous. It
is not preposterous; it shows that the Government are delivering for the NHS
and its patients.
Mr. Mike Hancock (Portsmouth, South): As one of the most significant
contributing factors to Portsmouth Hospitals NHS trust's failing was the high
number of cancelled operations, will the Minister give an assurance that
finance will play no part in the cancellation of further operations in our
hospitals? Will she also consider whether the new private finance initiative
franchising scheme for Portsmouth will have to carry forward the £3 million
deficit? If it does have to do so, it will lead to even more operations having
to be cancelled.
Jacqui Smith: I am not surprised that Liberal Democrats, following
the lead of their health spokesman, should argue for more resources to go into
the health service. We have no objection to that. This Government, in two
spending reviews, have increased the amount of money going into the national
health service by more than a third. However, that must be matched by the sort
of reform that is also necessary to ensure that we reduce levels of cancelled
operationssharing best practice, ensuring that the Modernisation Agency brings
about improvements and investing in diagnostic and treatment centres to split
emergency and elective care. Money itself is not enoughit is crucial, but so
is the reform with which this Government are accompanying it.
Tim Loughton (East Worthing and Shoreham): Will the Minister confirm
that the 77,818 operations cancelled last year for non-medical reasons
represented not only a 50 per cent. increase under her Government but an
increasing trend over the last yearup by 29 per cent.and an increasing
proportion of total operations? Even more worryingly, the number of patients
not readmitted for their operation within a month has more than doubled.
Although her response to the problemspending £8.5 billion on appointing a
gaggle of cancellation tsarswill no doubt have many patients dancing on their
trolleys, will she tell our constituents, in layman's terms, her definition of
non-medical cancellations? Furthermore, will she explain why, in her national
health service, there are such wide variations in cancellation rates between
hospitals, ranging from 0.1 per cent. to 18 per cent?
Jacqui Smith: Levels of cancelled operations in the national health
service are too high. That is why this Government are reforming the service and
ensuring that efficient management and systems are in place. Most important, we
are increasing the capacity in the national health service. There were more
beds last year for the first time in 30 years, more staff and an increase of
5.7 per cent. in the number of consultants working in the national health
service. We are increasing capacity and investment. Will the hon. Gentleman
support and reinforce that?
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