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Sunday, 2 September, 2001, 15:24 GMT 16:24 UK MMR:
Should there be a public inquiry?
A
survey for BBC Radio 4's Today programme suggests that the majority of
parents want a public inquiry into the safety of the MMR vaccination. Some parents believe that the triple
vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella is responsible for bowel disease or autism
in their children, and want the scientific arguments fully aired. The government insists that repeated
investigations at home and abroad show that the vaccine is safe, and says
that little would be gained from a public inquiry. Do you believe this - or do you feel
that official public debate of this kind is the only way to reveal the
complete truth over MMR? Here is what you had to say: Yes, I would like to see a public enquiry.
I would like to see actual facts and figures. It not only reassures parents
in Britain but parents across the world. My two children go to school in the
States and MMR is a required vaccine in order to attend school. I have many
friends whose children are in school and I don't recall any of them suffering
ill effects from the vaccine, but maybe I'm in the minority.
A public enquiry would cost too much money
and give little value. What parents need to know is the basic facts - what
proportion of children had autism before the MMR was introduced, what
proportion of children had autism after MMR was introduced, what proportion
of children who had MMR had autism. Then, if parents are still worried, offer
them the three vaccinations separately. I think this option should be
available anyway, and I can't understand why it seems to be virtually illegal
to offer it. Surely it's better to have our children protected, whatever the
cost? Put it this way, surely it would be cheaper to offer any concerned
parent the three-injection alternative rather than pay for yet another
pointless enquiry? The main rationale for measles vaccination
is to reduce the death rate, but that had declined by 99.4% before
vaccination (from 1901/2 in England and Wales), and those deaths could be
prevented with vitamin C injections. Hardly a reason to cause an epidemic of
vaccine disease such as autism especially when you know of the argument that
measles is a necessary function of the immune system and has been shown to
ward off allergic conditions such as asthma, eczema and hayfever, along with
various cancers. My wife and I decided against vaccinating
our youngest two children after my sister's child developed autism. As a
qualified Staff Nurse, my sister blamed herself for allowing her child to be
vaccinated. I have read with interest the hype surrounding the vaccination,
with claim and counter claim. My daughter, now aged four, starts school next
month, without any idea what school is all about, her autism will clearly be
a factor, but she is now statemented and the teachers have been briefed. At
least we won't have to blame ourselves for having allowed this vaccination to
damage our child. Please remember that autism is not detectable until around
the time that the MMR is given, that - is the co-incidence.
I think this subject needs looking into. I
have a two-year-old boy who suffered seizures ten days after his MMR. He was
never the same afterwards. I know that I do not have concrete evidence that
the jab caused his problems. However when I compare notes with many many
other families in similar circumstances, I know that it caused his problem.
The dose was too strong and he had it at a very young age. Luckily he only
had mild effects, and with home schooling my wife is working wonders with
him. Bless him, he could have died, he nearly did. I just hope that we can
learn from this tragedy rather than try to hide the facts, as the government
seems to be doing. Of course they should be a public enquiry
since no parent should be forced to give chemicals to their children. But
let's take a hard line with the results: A verdict of "there is nothing
to suggest MMR is unsafe" is not the same as "MMR is safe".
I heard the speakers on the Today programme
claiming that a public inquiry would give them the 'truth' about proposed
link between MMR and Autism. They don't realise that science can't give them
an absolute truth - only evidence and the probabilities of risks. A public
inquiry is not going to change this, because it can only review the science,
and so far the science is not conclusive. The place for scientific arguments is
scientific journals, not public inquiries. More scientific debate and more
original research would certainly provide more evidence, but in the end
decisions on vaccination must be made by parents and doctors based on current
evidence, and remembering that media hype can greatly distort people's
perception of risk. Personally, I feel that the refusal to hold
an inquiry indicates something to hide. My son is 18 months old and I've read
everything I can about immunisations, including the MMR. I have decided that
there is no way he will receive his MMR jab. As far as I can see, all the
medical profession can manage by way of reassurance is hysterical accusations
of irresponsibility and putting other children at risk, or sneering
references to "the chattering classes". I love my son more than
anything in the world. They're going to have to come up with a bit more in
the way of factual reassurance and acceptance of responsibility before I'll
consider it.
I do feel sorry for people whose children
have got autism. It is natural, and somewhat easy for them to want to
attribute the disease to a specific incident such as an MMR jab. It has been
shown that the rate of autism has not increased when the jabs were introduced,
this would have been a prime indicator of a causal effect of the jab. There
may indeed be some effect but it is so low level that it is not measurable.
Let us not forget that Measles kills and disables; one of my grandfathers
siblings died and two where blinded by measles. There is a general misconception of risk in
the population that should be addressed. The risks of not having the jab far
outweigh the risks of not having it; I had both of my children inoculated and
would do so again today. The damage that most parents are doing by giving
their children an inappropriate diet for example, has a far higher risk of
affecting the child than jabs like MMR. You weigh the risks and take the
consequences. My son is 15 months old and has had all of
his immunisations to date except the MMR. I am frightened to death of him
having it and ending up with autism or bowel disease. I don't feel I have
read anything to give me the evidence I need in order to go ahead with he
vaccine. A public enquiry may not be the answer but single vaccines would be
the answer for me. I would happily pay to go private for them, but I don't
know where to start. Immunisation is important to stop the spread of awful
diseases like measles and that is the aim of the Government so why not give
us the option to have the single vaccines. There is no need for a public enquiry just
a choice of single or triple vaccine. The "Government" feels it can
completely discredit ordinary people with very real fears. Most studies
appear to have something to loose if the results aren't the standard old
lines, of nothing in it. Please stop treating very able adults with real
concerns as idiots. I have two children who have both had the
MMR vaccine with no problems. Hhowever, friends of ours did the same and
their youngest child had a severe reaction to it and is now suffering from
Autism. Coincidence? I am not qualified to say. What I can say however is
that a perfectly normal toddler before his vaccination now suffers from a
problem that is very real and has changed his family's life completely. Yes -
we need a completely open enquiry but as we have a bunch of chronic control
freaks in Government I doubt we will see it in the life of this parliament.
As a new parent who has never worried
before, to make a decision for a one-year-old that could cause a problem, it
has been a nightmare. We were going to have the MMR, as we know measles can
kill, but fortunately we are lucky enough to have booked appointments to have
it done separately. An inquiry is needed to reassure parents and hopefully
get more children vaccinated if there is no link! The government long ago lost all
credibility on safety issues. Look at the Gulf War veterans, BSE, the
military volunteers who went to Porton Down to help find a cure for the
common cold... the list is endless. The simple fact is for parents who have
fears about MMR they are either going to have the single jabs or forego
vaccination altogether. MMR is not an option. There seems to be a belief that the simple
solution is separate vaccinations, whereas the evidence is that this approach
is less effective and exposes children to infection for a much longer period
- an inadequate alternative to the MMR vacccine. Having been faced with the MMR dilemma for
my own son in the last four months, I was very concerned at the rise in
autism during the same timeframe as the introduction of the triple vaccine. I
noted in particular that although research suggested there was not a link
between MMR and autism, there was no supporting argument for the rise in
autism. As we moved from the UK to Australia, the choice had to be made
within the Australian framework which denies a financial payment to parents
who do not fully immunise their children and also denies access to daycare
for children who do not keep up to date with vaccinations. I believe a public
inquiry would provide assistance to many puzzled parents who are only trying
to do what is right for their children as opposed to supporting any political
or private enterprise. I am not convinced that the MMR is
necessarily dangerous, but I'm not going to find out the hard way by gambling
with my son's future, either by overloading his immune system with the jab or
exposing him to a dangerous virus. Instead, I've opted for the best of both
worlds. He's just had the single vaccine and has been completely free of
side-effects. I would recommend it to any concerned parent.
The MMR vaccine is controversial because
the investigation into its safety is inconclusive. What this means is that no
link can be found between the vaccine and the childhood illnesses people
believe are caused by MMR. Science does not deal with 'facts' about the
world, it is merely a tool used by people to investigate 'reality'. Would the people who do not believe the
Government or a multitude of studies believe a public inquiry? I don't think
so, the inquiry would be a waste of money and time. Before letting my child
get the MMR vaccine I had heard the rumours of side effects and so looked
quite closely at the many articles and reports on the net... The pieces for
the MMR had evidence and the ones against had rumour. I feel, and some may
think I am harsh, that when something is wrong people automatically look to
place blame. This does not help the parents and totally fails to tackle
autism as a problem in its own right. The call for a public enquiry represents a
rather pathetic attempt to manufacture a news story out of a fading vaccine
scare. All the evidence to date is already in the public domain, and points
in the same direction - MMR does not cause autism. This is not just the
conclusion of government mandarins, whom one might sensibly distrust, but of
professional bodies around the world.
If there is a need for a public enquiry,
then it should enquire into how the media ever managed to convince so many
parents to refuse the MMR vaccination. There is no credible evidence whatever
that MMR causes autism, and it is scandalous that the media were able to
frighten so many people on the basis of a flawed piece of research. Why did
the autism scare grab so much attention when it seems to be largely forgotten
that measles can kill? An inquiry is unlikely to do any good.
Parents need to be offered a choice of having individual injections and not
the triple or nothing. Both of my children will not be having the MMR. There are genuine concerns about MMR and it
is no good just trying to sweep parents' concerns under the carpet. There
should be a public enquiry and if parents are still unsure about MMR then
single vaccinations should be available. At least this should stop an
epidemic
I doubt that a public enquiry is necessary
or useful, whereas additional research into the increased incidence of autism
certainly is (what I have seen of the evidence, as opposed to the spin,
suggests that there is a real problem with increased incidence of autism but
that the cause is not yet understood - and is unlikely to be MMR). One of the
major causes of this public health crisis is the utter refusal of the
Government and health experts to present such evidence as there is in an
impartial, objective manner, inevitably leading to universal mistrust. The Government believes that there is
"little to be gained" from a Public Enquiry?? However little will
be gained, surely it will be for the good of parents in this country if they
could hear people who understand the pros and cons of vaccination rather than
a government minister telling us that everything is going to be OK... I have
no faith left in our government. Let the people who understand matters give
us arguments to help us decide.
For me, the strength of parents' reaction
in linking autism (or other disorders) to MMR is enough to convince me that
something is wrong. We unfortunately have two cases in our family of parents
convinced their children suffered from the MMR injection. None of the cases
have been medically investigated. One father is from medical background and
literally went from completely pro to completely opposed to the injection.
Irrational or not, coincidental or not - it is imbalancing. My child is 16
months old and she is due her injection. She will not get it as a 3 in one. I
would like her to be immunised but not this way. Were I given the choice of
having separate injections, she would have been immunised by now and the
government would not need to worry about potential measles outbreak. Having one child who developed autism
shortly after receiving his MMR jab made us highly sceptical about giving our
next son the MMR vaccine. No public enquiry would have eased that worry,
however - the option to have three separate jabs would most certainly have
resulted in us getting our youngest vaccinated at an earlier age. Surely the
way forward is to give parents with real concerns this option, and not waste
money on enquiries which will fail to convince the sceptical. We have so far not had our son, aged 4,
immunised against any of these three diseases as the GPs we have had have
refused to supply the single vaccines either on the NHS or privately. He
reacted poorly to some of the vaccines he has received and we were given
little information about those either. I am also concerned that practice of
immunisation against milder diseases is growing at a time when the NHS budget
is stretched, when I was a child only girls were deemed to be at risk from
Rubella (due to the risk of the disease in pregnancy) and so, sensibly boys
were not immunised. Even then only girls who tested negative for antibodies
were subject to immunisation.
The Anti-MMR lobby have simply made
parents' life a misery by giving us another thing to worry about (as if we
didn't have enough worries already!). There is NO credible evidence that MMR
causes autism or Crohn's disease, indeed there is a lot of good evidence to
the contrary. There is no medical case for the separate vaccines either. If
we had a measles epidemic, it would cause far more harm than the illusory MMR
side-effects. People who are worried about autism should be promoting
research into the real causes of this poorly understood condition, not chasing
phantoms! This would be a far better expenditure of taxpayer's money than an
unnecessary public enquiry. Of course there should be a proper enquiry
into the autism epidemic (my son is now autistic following MMR) but who is
honest enough to carry out this responsibility? Won't it just be another
opportunity for reams of government spin as with all the other health crises
to date - Gulf War Syndrome, CJD, BSE, Foot-and-Mouth ad nauseam? What faith
can one possibly have in people who constantly cite as solid proof studies
which have been shown to be flawed? The government doesn't want to lose face
and the manufacturers don't want to lose profits. Meanwhile the number of
afflicted families increases worldwide and the requirement for special needs
education rises in tandem. Not without cost it should be remembered. There would appear to be a government
cover-up. Our son has autism and we feel that the MMR injections may have had
an influence in this. Most parents I speak to share this concern, and wish to
get separate injections for their children. I would not recommend the MMR to
anyone. Instead of trying to silence the voices of concern, the government
should be taking appropriate action or they could have an epidemic on their
hands. What the big deal with supplying separate injections anyway?
Why do we need an expensive public inquiry?
There are loads and loads of evidence that MMR is safe. Yes, unfortunately
some children did get autism, but many leading medical authorities have
extensively proven the globe over that it is safe. Parents should however be
free to make a choice for separate vaccination, but it should be made clear
that the separate vaccine is less effective and therefore can harm their
children. I don't see how a public enquiry is going
to convince parents who are unconvinced by all the reports and enquiries
already. People are just going to keep asking for new enquiries until they
get the only answer they'll believe. Yes I think there should be a public
enquiry. All the facts and evidence need to be considered properly in an
unbiased study, rather than the government simply stating that they are sure
MMR is safe because they are the government and they know best (remember
BSE). At the very least an enquiry would reassure parents. |
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