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Antibody
Theory
Quotes Disease
theory
Antibodies used as measure of
immunity:
"He said the normal trials on a new
vaccine were not possible in Britain because of the relatively small numbers of
people who contracted the disease. Instead scientists had tested whether the
vaccine produced sufficient antibodies."--Media report on meningitis C
vaccine
Antibodies not a measure of immunity:
"Human trials generally correlate
"antibody" responses with protection - that is if the body produces
antibodies (proteins) which bind to vaccine components, then it must be working
and safe. Yet Dr March says antibody response is generally a poor measure of
protection and no indicator at all of safety. "Particularly for viral
diseases, the 'cellular' immune response is all important, and antibody
levels and protection are totally unconnected."--Private Eye 24/1/2002
"The fallacy of this (antibody theory)
was exposed nearly 50 years ago, which is hardly recent. A report published by
the Medical Research Council entitled 'A study of diphtheria in two areas of
Gt. Britain, Special report series 272, HMSO 1950 demonstrated that many of the
diphtheria patients had high levels of circulating antibodies, whereas many of
the contacts who remained perfectly well had low antibody."--Magda Taylor,
Informed Parent
"Just because you give somebody a
vaccine, and perhaps get an antibody reaction, doesn’t mean a thing. The only
true antibodies, of course, are those you get naturally. What we’re doing [when
we inject vaccines] is interfering with a very delicate mechanism that does its
own thing. If nutrition is correct, it does it in the right way. Now if you
insult a person in this way and try to trigger off something that nature looks
after, you’re asking for all sorts of trouble, and we don’t believe it
works."—Glen Dettman Ph.D,
interviewed by Jay Patrick, and quoted in "The Great American
Deception," Let’s Live, December 1976, p. 57.
"Many measles vaccine efficacy studies
relate to their ability to stimulate an antibody response, (sero-conversion or
sero-response). An antibody response does not necessarily equate to
immunity......... the level of antibody needed for effective immunity is different
in each individual.....immunity can be demonstrated in individuals with a low
or no detectable levels of antibody. Similarly in other
individuals with higher levels of antibody there may be no immunity. We
therefore need to stay clear on the issue: How do we know if the vaccine is
effective for a particular individual when we do not know what level of
antibody production equals immunity?"--Trevor Gunn BSc
" The antibody business: Millions of
screening tests are distributed, each blood sample needs to be tested (4
millions in Germany alone) ... The therapy business: Antiviral
medication, 3 or 4 or 5 fold combinations, AIDS can´t be topped in this
department. ....... With intoxication hypotheses on the other hand you cannot
make any money at all. The simple message is: Avoid the poison and you won´t
get sick. Such hypotheses are counterproductive insofar as the toxins (drugs,
alcohol, pills, phosmet) bring high revenues. The conflict of interests is not
resolvable: What virologist who does directly profit millions from their patent
rights of the HIV or HCV tests (Montagnier, Simon Wain-Hobsen, Robin Weiss,
Robert Gallo) can risk to take even one look in the other direction."--By Claus
Köhnlein
"When they say immunogenicity what they
actually mean is antibody levels. Antibody levels are not the same as IMMUNITY.
The recent MUMPS vaccine fisaco in Switzerland has re-emphasised this point.
Three mumps vaccines—Rubini, Jeryl-Lynn and Urabe (the one we withdrew because
it caused encepahlitis) all produced excellent antibody levels but those
vaccinated with the Rubini strain had the same attack rate as those not
vaccinated at all (12), there were some who said that it actually caused outbreaks."--Dr Jayne Donegan
"Whenever we read vaccine papers the MD
researchers always assume that if there are high antibody levels after
vaccination, then there is immunity (immunogencity). But are antibody levels
and immunity the same? No! Antibody levels are not the same as IMMUNITY.
The recent MUMPS vaccine fiasco in Switzerland has re-emphasized this point.
Three mumps vaccines-Rubini, Jeryl-Lynn and Urabe (the one withdrawn because it
caused encephalitis) all produced excellent antibody levels but those
vaccinated with the Rubini strain had the same attack rate as those not vaccinated
at all, there were some who said that it actually caused outbreaks. Ref:
Schegal M et al Comparative efficacy of three mumps vaccines during disease
outbreak in Switzerland: cohort study. BMJ, 1999; 319:352-3."--Ted Koren DC
"In order to better grasp the issue of vaccine effectiveness, it would
prove helpful for us to go back to the early theoretical foundation upon which
current vaccination and disease theories originated. In simplest terms, the
theory of artificial immunization postulates that by giving a person a mild
form of a disease, via the use of specific foreign proteins, attenuated
viruses, etc., the body will react by producing a lasting protective response
e.g., antibodies, to protect the body if or when the real disease comes along.
This primal theory of disease
prevention originated by Paul Ehrlich--from the time of its inception--has been
subject to increasing abandonment by scientists of no small stature. For
example not long after the Ehrlich theory came into vogue, W.H. Manwaring, then
Professor of Bacteriology and Experimental Pathology at Leland Stanford
University observed:
I believe that there is hardly an element of truth in a single one of the basic
hypothesis embodied in this theory. My conviction that there was something
radically wrong with it arose from a consideration of the almost universal
failure of therapeutic methods based on it . . . Twelve years of study with
immuno-physical tests have yielded a mass of experimental evidence contrary to,
and irreconcilable with the Ehrlich theory, and have convinced me that his
conception of the origin, nature, and physiological role of the specific
'antibodies' is erroneous.33
To afford us with a continuing historical
perspective of events since Manwaring's time, we can next turn to the classic
work on auto-immunity and disease by Sir MacFarlane Burnett, which indicates
that since the middle of this century the place of antibodies at the centre
stage of immunity to disease has undergone "a striking demotion." For
example, it had become well known that children with agammaglobulinaemia--who
consequently have no capacity to produce antibody--after contracting measles,
(or other zymotic diseases) nonetheless recover with long-lasting immunity. In
his view it was clear "that a variety of other immunological mechanisms
are functioning effectively without benefit of actively produced
antibody."34
The kind of research which led to
this a broader perspective on the body's immunological mechanisms included a
mid-century British investigation on the relationship of the incidence of
diphtheria to the presence of antibodies. The study concluded that there was no
observable correlation between the antibody count and the incidence of the
disease." "The researchers found people who were highly resistant
with extremely low antibody count, and people who developed the disease who had
high antibody counts.35 (According to Don de Savingy of IDRC, the significance
of the role of multiple immunological factors and mechanisms has gained wide
recognition in scientific thinking. [For example, it is now generally held that
vaccines operate by stimulating non-humeral mechanisms, with antibody serving
only as an indicator that a vaccine was given, or that a person was exposed to
a particular infectious agent.])
In the early 70's we find an article
in the Australian Journal of Medical Technology by medical virologist B. Allen
(of the Australian Laboratory of Microbiology and Pathology, Brisbane) which
reported that although a group of recruits were immunized for Rubella, and
uniformly demonstrated antibodies, 80 percent of the recruits contracted the
disease when later exposed to it. Similar results were demonstrated in a consecutive
study conducted at an institution for the mentally disabled. Allen--in
commenting on herb research at a University of Melbourne seminar--stated that
"one must wonder whether the . . . decision to rely on herd immunity might
not have to be rethought.36
As we proceed to the early 80s, we
find that upon investigating unexpected and unexplainable outbreaks of acute
infection among "immunized" persons, mainstream scientists have begun
to seriously question whether their understanding of what constitutes reliable
immunity is in fact valid. For example, a team of scientist writing in the New
England Journal of Medicine provide evidence for the position that immunityto
disease is a broader bio-ecological question then the factors of artificial
immunization or serology. They summarily concluded: "It is important to
stress that immunity (or its absence) cannot be determined reliable on the
basis of history of the disease, history of immunization, or even history of
prior serologic
determination.37
Despite these significant shifts in
scientific thinking, there has unfortunately been little actual progress made
in terms of undertaking systematically broad research on the multiple factors
which undergird human immunity to disease, and in turn building a system of
prevention that is squarely based upon such findings. It seems ironic that as
late as 1988 James must still raise the following basic questions. "Why
doesn't medical research focus on what factors in our environment and in our
lives weaken the immunesystem? Is this too simple? too ordinary? too
undramatic? Or does it threaten too many vested interests . .
?" 38"---Dr
Obomsawin MD
"FROM REPEATED medical investigations,
it would seem that antibodies are about as useful as a black eye in protecting
the victim from further attacks. The word "antibody" covers a number
of even less intelligible words, quaint relics of Erlich’s side-chain theory,
which the greatest of experts, McDonagh, tells us is "essentially
unintelligible". Now that the old history, mythology and statistics of
vaccination have been exploded by experience, the business has to depend more
upon verbal dust thrown in the face of the lay public. The mere layman, assailed
by antibodies, receptors, haptophores, etc., is only too pleased to give up the
fight and leave everything to the experts. This is just what they want,
especially when he is so pleased that he also leaves them lots and lots of real
money.
The whole subject of immunity and antibodies is, however, so
extremely complex and difficult, especially to the real experts, that it
is a relief to be told that the gaps in their knowledge of such things are
still enormous.
We can obtain some idea of the complexity of the subject
from The Integrity of the Human Body, by Sir Macfarlane Burnet. He calls
attention to the fact—the mystery—that some children can never develop any
antibodies at all, but can nevertheless go through a typical attack of, say,
measles, make a normal recovery and show the normal continuing resistance to
reinfection. Furthermore, we have heard for years past of attempts made to
relate the amount of antibody in patients to their degree of immunity to
infection. The, results have often been so farcically chaotic, so entirely
unlike what was expected, that the scandal has had to be hushed up—or put into
a report, which is much the same thing (vide M.R.C. Report, No. 272, May
1950, A Study of Diphtheria in Two Areas of Great Britain, now out of
print). The worse scandal, however, is that the radio is still telling the
schools that the purpose of vaccinating is to produce antibodies. The
purpose of vaccinating is to make money!"---Lionel Dole
Crone, NE; Reder, AT; Severe tetanus in
immunized patients with high anti-tetanus titers; Neurology 1992; 42:761-764;
Article abstract: Severe (grade III) tetanus occurred in three immunized
patients who had high serum levels of anti-tetanus antibody. The disease was fatal
in one patient. One patient had been hyperimmunized to produce commercial
tetanus immune globulin. Two patients had received immunizations one year
before presentation. Anti-tetanus antibody titers on admission were 25 IU/ml to
0.15 IU/ml by hemagglutination and ELISA assays; greater than 0.01 IU/ml is
considered protective. Even though one patient had seemingly adequate
anti-tetanus titers by in vitro measurement 0.20 IU in vivo mouse protection
bioassays showed a titer less than 0.01 IU/ml, implying that there may have
been a hole in her immune repertoire to tetanus neurotoxin but not to toxoid.
This is the first report of grade III tetanus with protective levels of
antibody in the United States. The diagnosis of tetanus, nevertheless, should
not be discarded solely on the basis of seemingly protective anti-tetanus
titers. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=1565228&form=6&db=m&Dopt=b
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