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In 1979, the World Health Organization declared the deadly smallpox virus eradicated. Seven years earlier, in 1972, the United States stopped mass vaccinations, saying that the cure was more dangerous than any remnant smallpox virus. But smallpox still exists, in labs. There are two official repositories: the CDC, in Atlanta, and the Vektor Institute, in Russia. And there are a few unofficial repositories, according to intelligence reports: in North Korea, Iraq, Russia and France. Because of the deadliness of the disease - smallpox kills one third of those it infects - and because of the ease of its contagion - through the air - and because of the nature of those who possess smallpox - the Bush administration is wrestling with whether to mass vaccinate the public. The problem is that the cure can kill, too: up to 500 deaths, should all U.S. citizens be vaccinated, is the estimate. The existing vaccine, called Dryvax, is especially dangerous to those with weaker immune systems: diabetics, organ transplant recipients, AIDS and chemotherapy patients, the elderly, small children. And some develop side effects: acute skin lesions, blindness, brain inflammation. Even those old enough to have been vaccinated are probably still at risk since experts believe the vaccine loses its effectiveness over time. Definitely at risk is the U.S. military, most under age 30. A new and safer vaccine, ACAM-1000, may be available next year.

 
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There should not be mandatory vaccination. The threat of an attack is exaggerated. The threat of the attack is more exaggerated, in fact, than the threat of deleterious effects from the vaccine itself. We'd be better advised to spend our money on driver education and enforcing the laws.

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Olshewsky
Sun Nov 24 11:59 PM
College Station, TX

Thanks again to John M. for putting these issues into perspective.

No, there is not a global biological warfare threat from Iraq even though they are rumoured to have a small pox virus.

Notice that North Korea came out bragging of a nuclear bomb to impress us that they were above the concern of Iraq, yet no mention of their now reported unofficial store of small pox virus suggesting it is not in the weapon catagory.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:12 AM
College Station, TX

Interesting that France denies TMG report that France has an unofficial store of the Small pox virus.

Inquiring minds want to know, why deny it and is the assertion really true.

This type of denial about weapons on hand is the type of thing we threatened to nuke Iraq over.

Why is France assuming a posture that might call for inspections and would we ever subject France to anything like we impose on Iraq?

Is France just too big to be questioned, like the USA, while we strip search a smaller nation like Iraq?

Chris
Mon Nov 25 12:34 AM
MA
I don't believe France has ever signed a surrender agreement that it will disarm and allow weapons inspecters unfettered access, so it is probably safe.
If France ever does invade a neighbour State and start killing people with WMD and sponsoring terrorists that just might change.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:36 AM
College Station, TX

Probably no chance of France being questioned for invading with WMD since after all there has never been any questioning of the USA for that type of repeated behaviour.

 

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:47 AM
College Station, TX

Tony Blankley commented that POTUS & Putin are on good terms.

So why does Russia have an official store of Small Pox in Western Siberia and another unofficial store as reported on TMG?

Is the unoffical inventory the one that is for sale to our enemies?

Why are we not pressuring the UN for a resolution for inspectors to verify and report on this Russian repository of biological weapons ingredients?

JBorde
Mon Nov 25 1:36 AM
Louisville, KY
Olshev: Chirac and Putin would be equally insane to ever consider unleashing their small amounts of smallpox anywhere, anytime. The problem lies squarely where it usually does - with the paranoia/misplaced-reactionary policies of Hussein himself; almost no one else would ever consider using such a tactic.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 2:22 AM
College Station, TX

JBorde, I agree with you and JohnM. that this problem is writ larger than practically likely.

However, is Saddam the wild card in this?

Our govt is the one who is blowing this issue out of proportion and while we accuse Saddam of using the pox as a threat or scare, we are the ones using it to scare up support for war in our own country.

Iraq could be capapble of anything, but we have proven capable of spreading depleted uranium around Iraq and then sending our own troops into it (not to mention Agent Orange and other past biological sins of the USA).

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 2:52 AM
College Station, TX

Clift framed this issue the best:

If POTUS goes into Iraq and "forces a doomsday scenerio" then vaccinations

Except that if this doomsday scenerio is forced, I am not sure caccinations are what I am going to want.

I would say the next flight out of here, but I think the air might be the wrong place to be.

Head for the border at least.

Could POTUS get re-elected on a platform of needing to finish the war he started?

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 3:04 AM
College Station, TX

One in a million die from this thing.

That says nothing of the blindness and other side effects.

Does POTUS have the political capital to order the deaths of 300 Americans and countless more personal tragedies at home?

That could really hurt the re-election bid.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:01 PM
College Station, TX

JohnM. is totally on target with this quote which cleverly compares the danger of Iraq to the danger of driving cars.

The real Weapons of Mass Destruction are PARKED IN OUR DRIVEWAYS!

Driving is really really dangerous to other citizens in terms of deaths and injuries plus the danger to our society.

I totally agree with JohnM. that it is time to pour out this tempest in a teapot Iraq that has outlived its political usefullness and look to domestic problems that are truly a danger to our safety, the environment and American society.

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In 1979, the World Health Organization declared the deadly smallpox virus eradicated. Seven years earlier, in 1972, the United States stopped mass vaccinations, saying that the cure was more dangerous than any remnant smallpox virus. But smallpox still exists, in labs. There are two official repositories: the CDC, in Atlanta, and the Vektor Institute, in Russia. And there are a few unofficial repositories, according to intelligence reports: in North Korea, Iraq, Russia and France. Because of the deadliness of the disease - smallpox kills one third of those it infects - and because of the ease of its contagion - through the air - and because of the nature of those who possess smallpox - the Bush administration is wrestling with whether to mass vaccinate the public. The problem is that the cure can kill, too: up to 500 deaths, should all U.S. citizens be vaccinated, is the estimate. The existing vaccine, called Dryvax, is especially dangerous to those with weaker immune systems: diabetics, organ transplant recipients, AIDS and chemotherapy patients, the elderly, small children. And some develop side effects: acute skin lesions, blindness, brain inflammation. Even those old enough to have been vaccinated are probably still at risk since experts believe the vaccine loses its effectiveness over time. Definitely at risk is the U.S. military, most under age 30. A new and safer vaccine, ACAM-1000, may be available next year.

 
John McLaughlin

There should not be mandatory vaccination. The threat of an attack is exaggerated. The threat of the attack is more exaggerated, in fact, than the threat of deleterious effects from the vaccine itself. We'd be better advised to spend our money on driver education and enforcing the laws.

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Olshewsky
Sun Nov 24 11:59 PM
College Station, TX

Thanks again to John M. for putting these issues into perspective.

No, there is not a global biological warfare threat from Iraq even though they are rumoured to have a small pox virus.

Notice that North Korea came out bragging of a nuclear bomb to impress us that they were above the concern of Iraq, yet no mention of their now reported unofficial store of small pox virus suggesting it is not in the weapon catagory.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:12 AM
College Station, TX

Interesting that France denies TMG report that France has an unofficial store of the Small pox virus.

Inquiring minds want to know, why deny it and is the assertion really true.

This type of denial about weapons on hand is the type of thing we threatened to nuke Iraq over.

Why is France assuming a posture that might call for inspections and would we ever subject France to anything like we impose on Iraq?

Is France just too big to be questioned, like the USA, while we strip search a smaller nation like Iraq?

Chris
Mon Nov 25 12:34 AM
MA
I don't believe France has ever signed a surrender agreement that it will disarm and allow weapons inspecters unfettered access, so it is probably safe.
If France ever does invade a neighbour State and start killing people with WMD and sponsoring terrorists that just might change.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:36 AM
College Station, TX

Probably no chance of France being questioned for invading with WMD since after all there has never been any questioning of the USA for that type of repeated behaviour.

 

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:47 AM
College Station, TX

Tony Blankley commented that POTUS & Putin are on good terms.

So why does Russia have an official store of Small Pox in Western Siberia and another unofficial store as reported on TMG?

Is the unoffical inventory the one that is for sale to our enemies?

Why are we not pressuring the UN for a resolution for inspectors to verify and report on this Russian repository of biological weapons ingredients?

JBorde
Mon Nov 25 1:36 AM
Louisville, KY
Olshev: Chirac and Putin would be equally insane to ever consider unleashing their small amounts of smallpox anywhere, anytime. The problem lies squarely where it usually does - with the paranoia/misplaced-reactionary policies of Hussein himself; almost no one else would ever consider using such a tactic.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 2:22 AM
College Station, TX

JBorde, I agree with you and JohnM. that this problem is writ larger than practically likely.

However, is Saddam the wild card in this?

Our govt is the one who is blowing this issue out of proportion and while we accuse Saddam of using the pox as a threat or scare, we are the ones using it to scare up support for war in our own country.

Iraq could be capapble of anything, but we have proven capable of spreading depleted uranium around Iraq and then sending our own troops into it (not to mention Agent Orange and other past biological sins of the USA).

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 2:52 AM
College Station, TX

Clift framed this issue the best:

If POTUS goes into Iraq and "forces a doomsday scenerio" then vaccinations

Except that if this doomsday scenerio is forced, I am not sure caccinations are what I am going to want.

I would say the next flight out of here, but I think the air might be the wrong place to be.

Head for the border at least.

Could POTUS get re-elected on a platform of needing to finish the war he started?

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 3:04 AM
College Station, TX

One in a million die from this thing.

That says nothing of the blindness and other side effects.

Does POTUS have the political capital to order the deaths of 300 Americans and countless more personal tragedies at home?

That could really hurt the re-election bid.

Olshewsky
Mon Nov 25 12:01 PM
College Station, TX

JohnM. is totally on target with this quote which cleverly compares the danger of Iraq to the danger of driving cars.

The real Weapons of Mass Destruction are PARKED IN OUR DRIVEWAYS!

Driving is really really dangerous to other citizens in terms of deaths and injuries plus the danger to our society.

I totally agree with JohnM. that it is time to pour out this tempest in a teapot Iraq that has outlived its political usefullness and look to domestic problems that are truly a danger to our safety, the environment and American society.

The car would have to rank at the top of the...

 


 

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