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"Sophistry or Sensitive Science?" An
Interview with Martha Herbert
Martha Herbert biography: Martha Herbert is a pediatric
neurologist at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston and at
McLean Hospital in Belmont MA, where she specializes in patients
with learning and developmental disorders. She is also Vice-Chair
of the Board of Directors of the Council for Responsible Genetics.
She received her medical degree from Columbia University College of
Physicians and Surgeons, her pediatrics training at New York
Hospital-Cornell University Medical Center, and her neurology
training at the Massachusetts General Hospital, where she remains
and is on the faculty of the Harvard Medical School. At MGH she
pursues research on brain structure abnormalities in developmental
disorders, particularly autism. She also works on health and
ecological risks of genetically modified food, and on neurotoxins
and brain development. Prior to her medical training she obtained
an interdisciplinary doctorate from the History of Consciousness
program at UC Santa Cruz, studying evolution and development of
learning processes in biology and culture.
Casey Walker: In your recent essay “Incomplete Science, The
Body and Indwelling Spirit,” you sketched the difference between a
science shaped by a “control-oriented, disconnected” belief system
and a science shaped by a “systems-modulating, context-sensitive”
belief system. What are these differences and why do they matter?
Martha Herbert: I don't believe we can adequately critique
the uses of engineering technologies if we don't understand the
assumptions driving them, just as we can't critique the life and
physical sciences if we don't understand the assumptions driving
them. We seem to have no problem understanding all other areas of
inquiry, such as literature, history, politics, philosophy, or
economics, in the cultural settings that generate them, yet fail
consistently to question the same for science.
Briefly and obviously, there is a world of difference—all too
literally!—between basing a scientific enterprise on the belief that
a sufficient scientific control over the body or nature will achieve
an end to human suffering, and basing a scientific enterprise on the
belief that the body or nature and all it expresses is our primary
source for learning how to live well.
The first, which I would call a “control-oriented,
disconnected” belief system, informs most of our recent powerful
technologies, from nuclear power, dams, pesticide development, and
psychopharmacology to genetic engineering. This belief system tends
to make negative assumptions about nature and the human body,
suggesting that both are essentially limited, imperfect,
undifferentiated, uninteresting, inherently inferior, and morally
dismissable entities awaiting the improvements of engineering
technologies. Pests have no purpose and should be obliterated;
rivers that flood should be paved and straightened; emotional pain
is purely chemical and should be drugged. Human suffering can and
should be eliminated. Human “nature” is viewed as essentially weak,
nasty, selfish, greedy, and lustful, with destructive anti-social
impulses that should be controlled externally. The wild spirits of
children must be tamed by harsh discipline. The body is a source of
pain, appetite, sex, sickness, suffering, and death, which should be
fixed, escaped, or transcended. Similarly, the body's pleasures are
sinful, dangerous, and degrading and must be vigilantly restricted.
Spiritual beliefs consistent with this view of disconnection and
control invoke an authoritative deity remote from the body, mind, or
earth. Such beliefs aim for a salvation based on transcendence or
escape.
With the recent advent of biotech, nanotech, and infotech, we
see a techno-utopian expression of this belief system promoting
“exciting” projections for the future-physical “conquests” and
“upgrades” via Francis Bacon's notions of human designs escaping
natural limitations. Plants, animals, and babies can be engineered
to specifications we choose. The human brain can be enhanced by
genetic or synthetic engineering, and, indeed, the brain can be left
completely behind once we download it into a supercomputer. A
limitless supply of replaceable body parts will ensure immortality.
On the face of it, this vision appears less punitive and harsh than
the control-oriented view of nature and human nature, but in reality
it would subvert both. Cognition would be subverted into a
mechanistic process, while bodily sensuality and earthiness would be
demeaned as immaturely coy, comic book versions of super-sexual,
super-muscular, super-sensory prowess.
In contrast, a “systems-modulating, context-sensitive” belief
system tends to make positive assumptions about nature and the
body—physical constraints are inherent to a flourishing corporeality
and, one could say, the artfulness of existence. This belief system
comprehends life as connected and emergent at a profound level that
is larger and more complex than we currently understand. While this
intricacy and complexity militates against promiscuous or wholesale
engineering, we may yet come to understand, engage with, and work
with life both elegantly and appropriately at its structural
levels. Organisms and ecosystems have capabilities that, when
understood, can be gently modulated toward greater articulation.
And, while human suffering can and should be minimized, it is
nonetheless an ineluctable condition of existence essential to
developmental competencies and maturation. Through experience and
cultivated awareness, the inherent drives of human nature for love,
cooperation, curiosity, creativity, and conviviality can mitigate
fear-based defenses. Rage, impatience, self-centeredness, greed, and
other defenses caused by harmful experiences (isolation, danger,
deprivation, humiliation), can be overcome under properly nourishing
conditions. Indeed, the full repertoire of the human body and mind
is the very substance of a robustly mature physical, mental, and
spiritual life
Admittedly, these characterizations are highly polarized. Yet
they do intimate the wholly different worlds that can be created by
two such widely divergent belief systems. We live in a time when
most of science has been shaped by beliefs about nature and the body
that are primarily disconnected and control-oriented and that are
supported by motives based on fear and defensiveness. I think it is
essential, therefore, that large numbers of people quickly come to
see the problem: In whose hands do we entrust the power of
manipulating the smallest genetic, molecular, and atomic levels of
living and inanimate matter?
It is also obvious to me that we are hugely mistaken if we
believe the first worldview is not dominant in the engineering
sciences or is capable of self-correction without confrontation.
There isn't just a misunderstanding between these worldviews, there
is a basic conflict about the nature of life and existence that is
dangerously out of balance. Even worse, the conflict is not in
conflict. Where is contention? Will you speak to the deafening
silence in media and within the scientific community?
To my mind, there's a dominant sophistry going on. Where is the
press for existing, complex system alternatives such as agroecology,
alternative medicine, or somatics—all of which work strategically
within whole systems, are locally variable, and are not patentable?
I had the opportunity to speak to the National Academy of Sciences
last spring on health monitoring of biotech food—which currently is
not being done at all and would be extremely difficult to do. After
sketching how hard it would be to trace or control the many
infectious, allergic, toxic, and other risks this technology poses,
I asked my listeners: “How can we know if genetic engineering offers
the techniques we really need to use, in spite of all the risks,
when we haven't seriously discussed alternatives? Why haven't we
consulted people who already argue convincingly, and with a lot of
evidence, that there are many other ways to grow and produce all the
foods we need?” I suggested that if the National Academy of
Sciences wanted to exercise genuine scientific leadership, it would
set up a serious dialogue between biotech scientists and agroecology
scientists. How does each group define the problems, and how do
they approach solutions? How would each fare if they were compared
rigorously and in good faith? I don't think it would look so good
for biotech—in fact, the kind of genetic engineering currently
employed would look pretty foolish.
One reason that molecular biologists are uncomprehendingly
blind to complex system oriented alternatives is that they have not
been required to study ecology or other higher level biological
systems for the last several generations. Of course, another problem
with these contextualized alternatives is that they can't be
patented or privatized. Insofar as industry gets interested in
indigenous knowledge, it takes the form of “biopiracy.” For
example, industry scouts will learn about herbs from a traditional
shaman, identify some active ingredient in the laboratory, patent
it, market it, and give none of the proceeds back to the shaman or
the community where the knowledge originated. Such industries also
don't have much interest in the complex cultural contexts in which
the use of these herbs is embedded-systems of understanding that are
hard to patent and commodify, and is less real to them, in any case,
than genes or chemicals.
Imagine what it would mean for science if we didn't have our
kind of free-wheeling, intensely escalating, “win-lose” economic
pressure. If we could pour all the incredible resources that we're
currently wasting on toxic tech “fixes” into sustainable,
context-sensitive practices, we could live a lot more simply,
effectively, and ultimately more peacefully with one another and the
planet. It's a tragic waste that so-called economic imperatives have
forced the commercialization of molecular biology and genetics. We
could study molecular biology because it's remarkable and beautiful
to learn about these mechanisms, and not lose sight of the
correctives that come from remembering that these mechanisms operate
in larger frameworks.
The sin comes, as I see it, when we use incomplete knowledge
to make technological products for mass marketing-and with a hyped
urgency, at that. Once we turn these neat little laboratory tricks
into products (and one could say this is the essence of commercial
biotechnology), we are actively intervening in a system that we
don't understand. Technology gives us the power to devastate and to
rape without first requiring us to understand.
In “Dialogue on the Art of the Novel,” Milan Kundera raises
Kafka's question, “What possibilities remain for man in a world
where the external determinants have become so overpowering that
internal impulses no longer carry weight?” It's troublesome, isn't
it, to extend that question to: What possibilities remain if the
external and internal determinants for all living things become
radically overpowered by engineering projects and their unintended
side effects? Will you speak to what you are seeing as a pediatric
neurologist, clinically and professionally, in terms of internal
change—the numbers and kinds of cognitive, neurological, and
behavioral disorders in children?
I think that we are witnessing change in the neurological
wiring of this generation of children and that this can be
attributed to an unfortunate mix of early chemical insults and
social/emotional derailments.
Neurologists and neuropsychologists who have been practicing
for a few decades or more often comment on the changing character of
their caseloads. More than a few of my colleagues (myself included)
have dealt with four-year-olds who pull knives on their mothers,
something that would have been astonishingly rare twenty years ago.
Overall, more children are presenting with diffuse difficulties—not
discrete learning disabilities where everything else is more or less
intact, but difficulties spread across multiple cognitive,
sensorimotor, social, and emotional domains. And the scale of this
is enormous: 17% of children in the United States have some kind of
attentional or learning problem, and a significant number of them
are on medications of one kind or another. I think we are dealing
with the impact of the disintegration of family and community bonds
and a profound environmental insult on our very neurological wiring.
We know that rapid brain growth and development begins before
we are born and continues at least through the first three years of
life. After the initial structures are laid out, the brain “edits”
itself—keeping some connections and eliminating others—in what has
been called an “experience-expectant” process. Many palpable, but
hard to measure, qualities of ambient experience impact this process
in ways we are only beginning to look for and discern. For example,
an infant raised by a depressed mother can develop more
right-hemisphere electrical predominance, which predisposes him or
her to depression. Or, children raised in busy, jangled households
will accustom their autonomic nervous systems to this level of
stimulus and find it very hard to relax. And children who have been
emotionally or physically abused can show repetitive, stereotyped
motor activities as well as inappropriate aggression and abnormal
sexual activity. The patterns of such symptoms strongly suggest
that brain circuitry and chemistry are altered by experience in ways
that are enduring.
Chemically, the effects of malnutrition and intrauterine drug
and alcohol exposure have been fairly well-researched and
documented. We already know that children whose mothers used cocaine
or drank or smoked often during pregnancy have behavioral,
attentional, and language problems that are hard to control. Yet
far less research money has been spent on studying the impact of
industrial chemicals on brain development. In fact, out of the
85,000 chemicals in our environment, only twelve—that's one
dozen—have undergone the developmental neurotoxicology testing
protocol (www.preventingharm.org). Thus far, testing is voluntary
for industry, which is fiercely resisting any more rigorous
requirement even though fetuses are almost always more sensitive to
toxins than are mature organisms.
Now, in clinical medicine it's hard to make cause and effect
connections between cellular-level changes and behavioral problems
because of course we don't routinely take brain biopsies on our
patients. So although brain-behavior connections have been found in
animal models of intrauterine chemical exposure, making such
connections gets complicated when you bring these models back to
human beings. For one thing, unlike laboratory animals, human
beings don't get exposed to toxins in controlled, systematic ways.
Instead, exposure happens to different people at different times and
in all kinds of combinations with other toxins. Even babies exposed
to the same chemical may show different effects depending on when
the exposure happened and what else was in the mix. Two pregnant
sisters could visit their aunt near Lake Superior and eat fish with
PCBs in it, but if one were two months pregnant and the other seven
months, the consequences to themselves and their babies would be
different. So unless there is a massive, well-documented toxic
exposure, like a factory explosion or a major chemical leak, it's
hard to pick up patterns of toxic effects in groups of people-and
industry exploits this problem in its denials of toxicity. Even so,
effects are being demonstrated from chronic or intermittent
lower-level exposures.
Will you speak to the difference between the unintended
effects of pollutants or deprivations and the intended effects of
engineering technologies on human beings? Could we say that before
accepting engineering technologies as instrumental to increased
“health or reproductive” options, it's absolutely critical to see
how the more radical technologies, such as cloning, germline
enhancement, anti-aging, or anti-death engineering, determine
people's lives at a structural and experiential level? Are we
permanently foreclosing on a biologically natural, situated
consciousness and its human potential?
Yes. I think our ability to say no to these more radical
technologies can and should come quite easily from this insight: We
may permanently foreclose our human potential for a biologically
situated consciousness and, one could even say, conscience. This
same tension already exists in the recent and pervasive
bioengineering of the human mind and body through psychopharmacology
in the United States. We don't have to deny that schizophrenics can
be helped by their medications to wonder why everyone knows someone
on Prozac or Ritalin. When patients come in with medical or
psychiatric problems, medicine tries to manipulate or fix them so
they can return to their lives without making waves in their
particular situations. We then expect everything to return to
normal. For medical psychiatry, “normal” is a static concept that
is, arguably, increasingly reified by the need for high-functioning,
competitive performance in the workplace—doesn't our culture prize
an evenly energized extroversion? Such a notion is at odds with
natural bodily rhythms, having time and attention for loving
relationships, and the ability to perceive depth and nuance, or the
feelings that many of us have that allow us to know ourselves as
well know and feel empathy for others.
Now, so much of the time the cause of a person's distress or
disease makes it impossible to go back to “normal,” because that
crisis has revealed what previously seemed “normal” to be bankrupt.
A major attraction of alternative medical practices is that they
involve patient participation and validate personal awareness and
change at a level more meaningful than the symptom. Neither western
allopathic medicine nor mainstream psychology (especially
psychopharmacology) gives us any kind of vocabulary for that kind of
change within life. Yet many people are desperate for a deepening
of experience, for a way to respond transformatively to the messages
of their discontents.
Still in the realm of fantasy—but a very active quest for some
researchers and advocates—is the genetic modification of human
behavior and intelligence. This fantasy reflects a belief that we
are basically bags of genetically determined fixed traits into which
we can plug new traits as if they were spare parts. The “cracking”
of “the human genetic code” is viewed by these people as further
proof that we are just as digital as computers and that upgrading
humans should be little more complicated than plugging in a new
memory card. There are a number of problems with this concept, not
the least of which is that the “code” metaphor does not hold up to
research. The initial hype that we would find “genes” for
neurobehavioral disorders like schizophrenia or autism has deflated
after more than ten years of work. These disorders are far more
complicated than people originally thought. Similarly no one has
found the gene for intelligence or high scores on college admission
tests. Even so-called “single-gene” biomedical disorders such as
cystic fibrosis or sickle cell anemia turn out to be modulated by
other factors in highly variable ways that we hardly understand at
all.
So, can we dismiss bad science as bad science and depend upon
its own self-correction? No. Techno-utopian visionaries, many of
whom hold prestigious medical positions, still deny that our
knowledge is exceedingly incomplete and enthusiastically forecast
catalogs of traits that yuppies of the future will choose from to
customize designer babies. The frightening truth is that the
limited scope of our knowledge will not in itself stop experiments
with human genetic “enhancement.” The danger that such experiments
will fail or produce human beings with unforeseen illnesses or
complications (who can neither be forbidden to have children nor
eliminated like sick lab rats) does not stop such fantasies either.
Indeed, the danger that such experiments may threaten the “human
genome” does not occur to these people.
Industry knows there are vast markets of people—supported by
much of urban, media-driven western culture—who are so alienated
from the promptings of their inner experience that they see no other
way to enhance human potentiality for themselves, their children, or
others than through externally imposed engineering. These sorts of
people may already push themselves professionally and physically,
but to external rather than internal measures. They run more miles,
lift more weights, climb more peaks, get more promotions, buy more
things, network more cyberconnections—and refuse to admit there may
be more than quantity to life, that they don't or can't literally
“have and be it all.” For these people, acquiring even more of all
these externally measurable things seems a self-evidently worthy
goal for genetic or synthetic engineering. Once such attitudes are
set, we can see how difficult it is to register, let alone value,
aspects of existence that involve sensitivity to private feelings,
other people, communities, or nature. It logically follows that
these people see no problem with a social Darwinism built on a
selection of the “fittest” and are genuinely mystified by objections
to eugenics or human genetic “improvement.” Indeed, these people
appear to be parochial and presumptuous enough to believe that the
qualities making for “success” in a domineering, planet-destroying,
corporate culture represent the pinnacle of evolution and should be
immortalized in the genome/germline. For them, the suffering of
“losers” is theoretically regrettable, but a “price to be paid” for
the advancement of the human species.
So, the horror of these various levels of bioengineering is
three-fold. First, these technologies are not as precise as their
advocates suggest because they are based on a simple-minded model
that is at odds with the great complexity of biological systems.
Second, the intended use of these technologies is based on a
conception of human beings and nature that is ecoculturally
destructive and impervious to reasoned discourse. Finally, full
employment of bioengineering technologies is capable of bulldozing
both biological and cultural systems in spite of the incredible
flaws in the basic assumptions of such technologies. In fact, this
bulldozing may be approaching, or even already have passed, a
critical point of no return.
From a neurological point of view, what did you think of the
Waldorf education article describing German studies that show a
degeneration of consciousness due to overwhelming sensory
stimulation in modern environments—that 4,000 people were showing a
decreasing ability over twenty years to perceive and synthesize
information such as nuanced subtleties in color, sound, and taste,
while showing an increasing tolerance for dissonance. Are you
seeing neurological evidence for what amounts to a change or
restriction in consciousness?
This study at least has a conception of transformative
experience, even if by investigating its absence! To have an
increased tolerance for dissonance along with problems perceiving
and synthesizing information means that you are less likely to
engage in the process of integrating complexity. You simply let it
sit there as a mess, and you don't rise to the challenge of coming
up with a more comprehensive framework that could account for why it
is dissonant, why it doesn't seem to hang together.
I wish more had been said in that article about how these
researchers went from their electrophysiological measurements to
characterizing specific brain pathways that, at one time, had helped
people integrate information and that now apparently are no longer
used as much. This process is not obvious and I would like to see
it elucidated. However, I am sympathetic to the notion, both for
neuroscientific reasons and because it is easy to infer that
attention spans have in fact shortened for people living in highly
mediated, urban environments without a sustained focus on just about
anything. It is also easy to infer that the ability of such people
to perceive the world has become constricted. Many of us don't have
the time or space to settle into perceiving the world's more subtle
and nuanced features. Things don't get time to weave themselves
together in intricate patterns. Information is thrown at us in
increasingly bright colors and at higher decibels just to get our
attention. And the information is so ungrounded it doesn't repeat
itself in any kind of a natural pattern—it doesn't have to do with
regular routines or rhythms, it just has to do with whatever
somebody threw into some video somewhere on your tube. This creates
an arbitrary reality of brutal thrills. And because we perceptually
fatigue in these environments, the producers of film, music, radio,
TV, and fast foods are always upping the ante on effects. So, the
idea that we are losing the ability to perceive subtleties on all
sensory levels makes good sense. Alarming.
The neurobehavioral disorders I see clinically in kids, such
as autism, attention deficit disorder learning disabilities, and the
various results of intrauterine drug exposures, seem to me like
exaggerations of the sensory and mental processing issues the rest
of us face daily in our overloaded lives. These kids are usually
swimming in chaos—which looks like a mix of disorganized daily
routines, hyper-vigilant jumpiness, and genuine problems with
processing experience. A lot of these kids are clumsy and get
overwhelmed by tasks that require coordination they can't muster. I
often see major problems with processing sensory input, particularly
with autism. Some of these kids have complete meltdowns because
they can't tolerate things the rest of us don't notice, like the
scratchiness of labels in clothes or the high-pitched noise emitted
by fluorescent light bulbs. They also melt down if they have to
process too many sensory modalities at once or process them too
fast. Some of the so-called explosive behavioral problems also seem
to be set off by some combination of sensory, cognitive, and
emotional overload. And some of these kids engage in what people
call “self-stimulatory behaviors” that can range from head-banging
to cutting themselves with razor blades-compulsive self-infliction
of extreme sensations. Some of my more articulate patients have
told me that they do this because it makes them feel “real.”
But to lay the blame for this degeneration of consciousness
only on psychological, sensory overstimulation doesn't go far enough
in comprehending the amount of injury our bodies and minds sustain
from chemical and emotional insult. It's clearly ominous for any
individual and for society as a whole to have our brain's capacity
to process experience first impaired by toxins and then overwhelmed
by sensory and informational input. How, then, can we rely upon our
thinking, our feeling, our judgment?
Taking the effects of toxins and the effects of sensory
overload a step further, we are forced to acknowledge that the
possibilities of the human body and mind are inseparable from the
possibilities within our environments. It's here that things get
interesting to me: Can we become conscious of how we are shutting
down the living substance of possibility—both wild nature and human
nature—before we extinguish it entirely? This is where Paul
Shepard's work becomes provocative. Is there a genetically
conserved human “nature” that retains genuine impulses—or are we
witnessing a threshold disintegration of that human “nature”?
There are several ways to look at this question. One is
that yes, we do need to deepen our critique of our actions, to see
quite clearly the assumptions and outcomes of designing and
determining the exterior and interior worlds of wild nature and
human beings. I do think we must question the results of our
creativity and judge them—where and how do they violate life at a
systemic level and at a level of being or ontology? But if we have
to make these judgments from our own sense of life that has not been
corrupted, violated, or simplified to begin with, then, obviously,
we're skating on thin ice, some of us more than others. After all,
global chemical, cultural, and increasingly genetic meddling has
affected all of us and all life on the planet-and we cannot call it
an “experiment” because we have no “normal controls” anymore. We
know that physically and cognitively we become the world we create,
which brings back the original problem of what kind of worldview is
driving our creativity and what constraints does it work within-what
does it rub up against? If we acknowledge that we do not “create”
life at the structural level, but engage in a discovery of what
exists wildly, naturally, we comprehend life much differently.
Reading Paul Shepard's Nature and Madness was a transformative
experience for me. His idea that the “progress of civilization” has
meant the loss, rather than the gain, of conditions necessary for
the epigenetic unfolding of our potential profoundly reverses deeply
conditioned assumptions. Shepard was really courageous to make his
argument, as others are who don't buy the central hegemonic myth of
“progress” that claims the past was brutish, miserable, and dumb.
Shepard ends Nature and Madness with an evocation of our
inner-indeed, I would say, bodily or “somatic”—potential for
ecological integration and maturity. He says:
“Beneath the veneer of civilization, to paraphrase the trite
phrase of humanism, lies not the barbarian and animal, but the human
in us who knows the rightness of birth in gentle surroundings, the
necessity of a rich nonhuman environment, play at being animals, the
discipline of natural history, juvenile tasks with simple tools, the
expressive arts of receiving food as a spiritual gift rather than as
a product, the cultivation of metaphorical significance of natural
phenomena of all kinds, clan membership and small-group life, and
the profound claims and liberation of ritual initiation and
subsequent stages of adult mentorship. There is a secret person
undamaged in every individual, aware of the validity of these,
sensitive to their right moments in our lives. All of them are
assimilated in perverted forms in modern society: our profound love
of animals twisted into pets, zoos, decorations, and entertainment;
our search for poetic wholeness subverted by the model of the
machine instead of the body; the moment of pubertal idealism shunted
into nationalism or ethereal otherworldly religion instead of an
ecosophical cosmology.
“But this means that we have not lost, and cannot lose, the
genuine impulse. It awaits only an authentic expression. The task
is not to start by recapturing the theme of a reconciliation with
the earth in all of its metaphysical subtlety, but with something
much more direct and simple that will yield its own healing
metaphysics.”
From where I sit, the approaches to science that are
context-sensitive do conserve a human responsiveness to the natural
world. They express an old and enduring vision and practice that
are to me the only real way out of our destructive tailspin. The
question of our millennium is really, How can we regenerate our
bodies and minds so that living is bearable and safe? So that
cultural and biological diversity thrive? So that material needs are
simple and spiritual life is rich? So that everybody has enough and
nobody has too much? A regenerative vision requires these
sciences—not only to untangle our big mess but to demonstrate the
whole-system approach. We desperately need a sensitive, complex
sophistication in our scientific culture and in our culture at
large. And we need to generate this ourselves—we're not going to
get it from the dominant sciences, industries, or cultural
mythologies, which flourish when all of us humans are dumbed-down,
obedient consumers, disembodied from the real feelings of life.
Yet Shepard's poignant hopefulness rests on a delicate
interplay between our intrinsic potential and a facilitative
ecocultural environment. What remains for us if we poison and
engineer not only our environments but also our very selves beyond
the bounds of our integrity? From where do we then draw our
regenerative powers? Do we give up and revel in the ostensibly
infinite combinatorial possibilities of
nano-digito-geno-transpeciation? This is a “post-modern” choice,
but its dismissal of any integrity that can be violated contradicts
its championing of diversity, which was hardly generated digitally.
It is a sellout to an opportunistic and misguided reductionism that
reduces the world's phantasmagoric complexity to a set of codes
(genetic, digital, etc) which are presumed a priori-and wrongly-to
interface without residual. Then it engineers on the basis of these
ideological reductions, and ignores the screams of those whose non-digitizable
qualitative realities are thus violated.
If we don't take a fundamental stance against this
triumphalist reductionism, we won't be able to fight it. We won't
have any real arguments against industry's picking away at nature
gene by gene, chemical by chemical, extinction by extinction, to the
point of cultural decimation and ultimately genocide and ecocide. If
everything is reducible and interchangeable, like moneyon the
international market, then we're just dickering over spoils, not
fighting for sustainability.
Pitted against these true believers in false progress are the
rest of us, a ragtag and harried bunch who are dependent upon,
implicated in, and damaged by the forces we need to overcome.
Shepard's work gave me a new kind of compassion for the unevenness
in—or virtual lack of—maturity in every adult I've ever met.
Growing up as we have, disconnected from nature and all its wild
non-human beings who could have provided models of wisdom different
from our own, growing up in denial of the price we pay for our
dominion over nature, we haven't stood much of a chance to do
better. Add to this the enormous karmic burden from millennia of
organized barbarism, and what we've created for ourselves is even
sadder and more barren of possibility for psychic health.
“Development” and “progress” have deprived us of any
culturally developed basis for imagining how things could be truly
different. Paul Shepard's evocation of an intrinsic capacity for
ecocultural maturity represents a source of resistance and
regenerational creativity that may not hang on as its wellsprings
dwindle or are deformed. Yet there is still intrinsic outrage, and
we can only work hard to channel it into regenerative, complex, and
sensitive directions away from the fundamentalist, nationalist,
sit-com, simple-minded hell that otherwise awaits us.
Will you describe the kinds of scientific approaches you see
today that are conserving and could advance the Shepardian ideal
through “systems-modulating, context-sensitive” practices?
If we were interested in the epiphanies people
experience—those moments of great transformative insight—and if we
had instruments sensitive enough, we could detect many ways in which
the mind affects matter. We could learn about how changes in neural
circuitry, neurotransmitter concentrations, and gene expression
accompany one another during such experiences, as well as about
larger-scale bodily functions such as breathing, heart rate, and
skin conductance that are also affected. It will be a very long
time, if ever, before we model in detail the totality of such
experiences. Indeed, understanding the processes of such
experiences would not enable us to engineer them. In fact, the
folly of the quest to engineer ecstasy comes home to us in the drug
crisis—playing with neurotransmitters out of context of cultural
meaning and self-discipline hardly leads to wisdom. Biofeedback, on
the other hand, is a technology that enhances awareness of otherwise
imperceptible somatic processes and enriches our capacity for
sensitive self-regulation. The biofeedback device translates the
participant's normally imperceptible physiological responses to
relaxation into perceptible sound or light messages, that help the
participant learn to work with his or her own inner capacity to
relax. The participant can learn to enhance the perceptible
signals—by making the sound deeper or the light cooler, for
example—and thus alter his or her own physiology. Biofeedback is a
participatory dialogic technology, rather than one to which we
subject ourselves passively.
Were we oriented to developing more such participatory dialogic
technologies, we might exquisitely inform the discipline, should we
realize it, of lived experience. The more we learn about the
interplay of experience and our system of physiology and regulatory
mechanisms, the more we might deepen our understanding of when
things are working or not working systemically. With these
intentions, monitoring molecular, genetic, and other
technology-mediated markers may help us to fine-tune how we modulate
our body-mind systems, but I don't think these technologies will
ever substitute for long-term programs of sophisticated training and
discipline, like t'ai chi or yoga or meditation. Those complex
practices were developed over generations of cumulative observation
in cultures much slower and more mindful than our own. Our
technologies may uncover some mechanisms underlying the
effectiveness of such practices, and possibly somewhat fine-tune
them or help people get started, but could probably not replace them
or invent them de novo. This is what I mean by searching for an
elegance and appropriateness of technologies—in this case a
participatory somatic technology. How do we ask questions that grow
intrinsically out of the wisdom of the process, not out of the
naivete of the investigators or the limitations of the measuring
instruments? When I study complex self-regulatory practices, I
don't want to reduce those practices to my instruments; I want to
raise my instruments to the practices. We have all but buried our
indwelling dimensions of sensuality, perception, and profound,
enormous creativity. In what ways can the new technologies for
body-mind exploration help us re-embody rather than caricature our
intrinsic sensibilities?
It's these kinds of sensibilities that make genetically
engineered food so viscerally repulsive in cultures less ravaged by
commercialism and corporate agriculture than ours, cultures in which
people perceive food as something entirely different from
“consumable products.” Food is an inextricable part of the lives of
the individuals, families, and communities who grow it, trade it,
cook it, and eat it together. This belief is the foundation of the
“slow food” movement we see in Europe, which wants to put the “food”
back into agriculture. Sticking genes into patented food
commodities, which are grown as manufactured products and sold in
identical packaging all around the world, obliterates the reality of
food as plant or animal and the reality of people sharing the bounty
of field or hunt around a communal hearth. Once the context for food
is obliterated, we slip into thinking it's normal and even virtuous
to pass off all sorts of abominations because no one has proven them
“unsafe.”
In contrast to genetically engineering our food, agroecology (http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/~agroeco3/)
is a scientific approach to agriculture that is grounded in and
respects ecological, cultural, and socioeconomic context. It sees
crops and weeds and insects and fungi and bacteria in their
ecological interrelatedness. It takes seriously a traditional
agricultural practice like multi-cropping, as such a practice has
developed through ages of experience and reflects the wisdom of
sustained observation. Finding out why planting marigolds next to
tomatoes keeps the bugs away can lead to low-tech, low-chemical,
high-intelligence, innovative practices. I should say that these
questions are quite parallel to those raised by the
context-sensitive study of self-regulatory processes I just
discussed: How do we raise our agricultural practices and science
to the complex potentialities of nature rather than dumbing nature
and science down to our market and patent systems?
Like traditional agriculture, the transformative experiences
facilitated by traditional “inner arts” are generated slowly and as
a result of sustained observation, discipline, and enculturation.
These kinds of changes lead to a wisdom about life from experience
and are fundamentally incommensurable with the gimicky techno-quick
fixes consumer society has trained people to expect. As agroecology
refutes genetically engineered food, so the inner artful sciences
are a deep refutation of “human enhancement” as promoted by
advocates of permanent, germline engineering, such as those in the
Extropy Society, who are absolutely sure that we can and must do
better than “Mother Nature.” Here we see our most serious confusion
between constraint and liberation. Those who earnestly believe that
the potentiality of the human body must be liberated from its
current design constraints, and re-created beyond nature's
conception, seriously and tragically confuse constraint with
deficiency or deprivation. They do not comprehend that instead of
escaping the “limits” of our bodies and the “limits” of nature, we
need to reinhabit our bodies and our rightful place in nature, lest
we lose them forever to a techno-hive in a techno-sphere. We must
pursue the constrained but infinite potentialities of both. Once we
experience constraint not as deficiency but as the actual basis of
art, we will understand the structural integrity that creates
open-ended potentiality, and might just begin to exercise what is
already possible within us and in the world around us.
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