The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr Murray Tosh): The final item of
business is a members' business debate on motion S1M-3765, in the name of
Nicola Sturgeon, on the removal from vaccines of thimerosalno doubt we will
hear a range of different pronunciations of that word as the debate
proceeds.
Nicola Sturgeon (Glasgow) (SNP): There are indeed two
pronunciations of the word, Presiding Officer. I will stick to "thimerosal",
with the stress on the second syllable.
I am grateful for the opportunity to debate the issue, which has received
considerable attention in the past few weeks, particularly through some
excellent reporting in The Scotsman. If my mailbag is anything to
go by, the matter is a cause of concern to many members of the public,
particularly parents of young children.
As we all know, vaccines save lives. I make it clear at the outset that
the debate is not an anti-vaccine one; it is about what goes into vaccines.
I will not try to give conclusive proof that there is a link between
thimerosal and conditions such as autism. Many people believe that there is
such a link, but I am not a scientist and I do not know whether such a link
exists. However, what I have heard and read gives me great cause for
concern.
The presence of thimerosal in vaccines, especially child vaccines, is a
risk that we do not have to and should not take. Thimerosal is not an
essential component in vaccines, but is used as a preservative to kill
bacteria and to prolong shelf life. Thimerosal is 50 per cent ethyl mercury.
After plutonium, mercury is the most toxic element in the world. We know
from studies with animals that ethyl mercurythe substance that thimerosal
breaks down into when it is injected into the bodybinds with body protein
and brain tissue. Once mercury traces are in the body, they are difficult to
remove.
According to the United Kingdom medicines information service, the
substance is present in 13
vaccines that are available in the UK. The list
includes four of the seven available flu vaccines and, most worrying, the
DTP vaccine that is given to babies from the age of eight weeks to protect
against diphtheria, tetanus and whole-cell pertussis. Every baby receives
three doses of the vaccine in the first 16 weeks of life, with each dose
containing 25 micrograms of ethyl mercury. Therefore, in the first 16 weeks
of a child's life, when the nervous and immune systems are extremely
fragile, the child is injected with 75 micrograms of ethyl mercury.
Is
that safe? No doubt the minister will cite the views of the Committee on
Safety of Medicines, the World Health Organisation, the Joint Committee on
Vaccination and Immunisation and others that that level of thimerosal causes
no harm. However, I hope that the minister also points out that no major
studies have been carried out to demonstrate proper safety limits for
exposure to ethyl mercury and that many individuals and organisations
express contrary views.
The United States Institute of Medicine stated in a recent report that
current scientific evidence neither proves nor disproves a link between
thimerosal and neurodevelopmental disorders in children. However, it went on
to say that such a link is "biologically plausible" and recommended that
thimerosal be removed from vaccines that are administered to infants,
children and pregnant women.
The UK medicines information service said that
"The very low thiomersal concentrations present in the pharmacological
and biological products are relatively non-toxic in adults",
but
"may be toxic in utero and during the first six months of life."
At question time two weeks ago, the Minister for Health and Community
Care said that that statement had been withdrawn from the organisation's
website. That is true, but what Iand many parents throughout Scotlandwant
to know is whether the MIS's statement was true. Parents who are expected to
have their children injected with the vaccine have a right to know whether
it is toxic. I hope that the deputy minister will answer that question in
his comments.
In an internal document that was obtained by The Scotsman, the
manufacturer of thimerosal, Eli Lilly, says:
"mercury causes mild to severe mental retardation and motor co-ordination
impairment. This chemical contains a property known to the state of
California to cause birth defects and other reproductive harm."
the US since 1999 and it is no longer used in
many other countries. That is a clear indication of the level of concern
that exists.
As a result of decisions that are made in London, not in
Scotland, the United Kingdom is now the only country in the developed world
that has not switched to thimerosal-free vaccines for routine infant
immunisations. Unless the minister is willing to state to parents all over
the country that thimerosal is safeand I wait to hear whether the minister
will use the word "safe" about the compoundthe UK's position must change.
There is a chance that thimerosal poses a risk to the health of our
children. That is a risk that we should not be taking and, as I said, it is
a risk that we do not have to take. Thimerosal does not need to be contained
in vaccines.
I am asking the Scottish Executive to do two things. First, it should
take steps to inform patients that there is an alternative to the
thimerosal-containing DTP vaccine and that they have a right to request it
for their children. A mercury-free vaccine called Infanrix is licensed in
this country. It costs about £7 more per injection than the
thimerosal-containing DTP vaccine, but that is surely a price worth paying
to avoid the risk of exposing children to neurological damage.
Malcolm Chisholm said in the chamber two weeks ago that parents have the
right to choose. However, what good is that right if most parents do not
know that they have it and if most are not aware that an alternative to the
routinely used vaccine exists? Information is power; parents should be
furnished with the facts to enable them to make informed choices for their
children. In the case of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccinewhich does
not contain thimerosalwe have seen the damage that can be done to public
confidence when concerns mount and choice is denied.
Secondly, the Scottish Executive must take steps to eliminate the risk.
We should follow the lead of other countries and ensure that all
vaccinesespecially those that are administered to childrenare thimerosal
free. Thimerosal is not required in vaccines and it should not be permitted.
The Scottish Executive has said that the use of thimerosal in vaccines is
being phased out. That, in itself, is an admissionor at least an
acknowledgementof the fact that thimerosal may not be safe. I hope that,
tonight, the minister will go further and set out the Scottish Executive's
clear intention in a defined time scale to rid all child vaccines that are
available in Scotland of thimerosal and mercury, in the interests of child
safety.
Mr Lloyd Quinan (West of
Scotland) (SNP): I associate myself with Nicola Sturgeon's remarks
and support entirely what she has said. The accumulation of mercury and
heavy metals in our childrenboth from the environment and from
vaccinationsis a problem that is being addressed in nearly every developed
country, as Nicola Sturgeon said. However, the problem is not being
addressed directly in this country. Using a mercury derivative as a
preservative, effectively to extend the shelf life of a product, may well
have its benefits for the manufacturer and for central Government, which
buys and stocks the vaccination, but that can hardly be cited as
justification for using a poisonous substance on children and pregnant
mothers.
In the United States, the immunisation safety review committee of the
Institute of Medicine concluded that there is inadequate acceptable evidence
to establish a causal relationship between thimerosal exposure through child
vaccines and the neurodevelopmental disorders of autism. However, in the
same paper, the committee made recommendations, which have been acted on, to
reduce and effectively remove thimerosal from all child vaccines.
As Nicola Sturgeon said, the debate should not be about whether using
mercury as a preservative in vaccines causes specific disorders. The science
is straightforward: mercury is a poison in the human body. Mercury in the
human body at an early stage, particularly at the foetal stage, can be
devastating to the development of the neural pathways, among many other
things.
I speak on behalf of the cross-party group on autism and Asperger's and
the many parents who have written to me. Those parents are now extremely
scared, not of the MMR vaccine, but of the DTP vaccine, especially in light
of the evidence that emerged in London in the case of the woman who was
tried for, found guilty of and jailed for the death of her two children. We
have now discovered that both those children, who had had the DTP vaccine,
had high levels of a form of virus that is associated with cot death. One
woman in this country has spent nearly two years in jail, gone through a
trauma that has destroyed her family and has had to live with the accusation
that she caused the death of her two children. Is the Executive prepared for
similar cases to come to light, or shall we operate purely on the
precautionary principle, as has been requested on many occasions? That
approach is simple and has been followed in the United States and the rest
of the developed world.
If we want to maintain herd immunity, we must not undermine faith in the
vaccination programme by effectively giving people no choice. I urge the
minister to tell us that we are moving to a
time when choice will be available in all vaccines and that there will be an
active campaign for the health service in Scotland to use only those
vaccines that do not contain thimerosal for pregnant women and young
children.
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-- Albert Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901
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